Improvements to Item Drops

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Last edited by dodder#2509 on Aug 24, 2022, 10:27:58 AM
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Vinrog wrote:
Please do not cave to pressure from the mob. Game is great and updating old systems is necessary. I do not want to load up PoE2 and be stuck playing PoE 2021.


While updating old systems is necessary. Maybe you want to do it in small steps. Not a huge ninja one. Im pretty ok with archnem but only if its rewarding. Not kill a mob for 5 minutes with non meta build and get at least a transmute
Thanks for these changes GGG. I'm personally really enjoying playing right now despite all this, and was before this last patch, although given the nerfs and justifiably cacophanous uproar from everyone else, it feels a little like cheerfully fiddling whilst Rome burns. Nevertheless despite drop rates going through the floor, and it getting a little hot in here, I'm finding it a toe-tapping tune. It's just the people running past the window outside on fire which is rather distracting.

I don't think it's the gear drop rates that are the problem currently, so I was a bit confused by the gear tier patch. I think even before this last patch this was fine, given the state of ground gear affix rolls, I already had to craft or trade for gear, so I just need one good base per slot. It's mid tier currency, fragments, shards etc. which are lacking. Items used to access content and improve gear.

I appreciate the 25% currency drop rate buff but I'm quite certain the overall nerf was an order of magnitude larger than this, so I'm not sure why that was included as it hasn't done an awful lot.

It feels like alchs, scourings, regals and chaos have taken the biggest hit, to the extent that it feels like their drop rates were explicitly reduced hard, beyond the overall currency changes. Divines and exalts don't seem to have changed much to me even with the overall nerfs, so I presume these were buffed behind the scenes.

My only real chaos has come from the most intensive chaos recipe use I've ever done, which feels extreme, but I'm getting by. I've been converting currency up through the lossy vendor purchase chains, which I never do, and may bite me later.

My biggest problem currently with currency is I've no real source of alchs. Purchasing for 1 regret (32 jewellers, 5 vendored six socket items) is too rich, and they've not dropping through white and yellow maps. But presuming currency drop rates don't change back to previous levels, perhaps a change vendor exchange rates (buy a scouring for 6 jewellers, buy an alch for 8 jewellers) or allow chaos orbs perform the function of alchs as well a la essences. Of course if they dropped, that would be nice too.

I'm not sure the unique drop rate buff has done much for me personally, I was fine with their scarcity and I can't do much with most of them anyway other than bank or vendor. I've yet to see much by way of the buffed uniques. I quite liked that uniques were super rare now. I've had more drop in a few hours today than in the last four days of play and I'm not sure that's helped my upgrades or level of fun.

I recall an earlier interview with Chris around the time of Heist or Delve talking about the proposed loot 2.0 rework (drop far less, far better affixes) and how despite being great it was put off because it would cause a huge uproar. As a point of interest, feels like we have the uproar anyway now, but we didn't get the rework.

I think people could use some reassurance right now, as a cynic might suggest a pattern to the last few leagues' balance changes. It'd be great to know the plan, especially the bad news. I'm not sure that the community and streamers' goodwill can take so many... surprises through to PoE 2 unless people know what's coming. Look after yourselves GGG. I've got some maps to clear.
GGG and the blizzard like fixes... sad
You mfers just see the high top players when you adjust your changes. I'm very casual, I can't play more than 2-3h mostly on weekends. Guess how the gameplay was for ppl like me before you mess with basic currency drop. (blue items act 10 and death count close to 500) WHAT A FUN WHOAAAAAA no pepegacredit from me. I let you starve.
I have a great offer for GGG!
Reduce your salary by 90%, and then increase it by 25%. You can even increase it twice, I'm generous today.

Also, #DELETEARCHNEMESIS
Last edited by Yukiomi#1723 on Aug 24, 2022, 9:28:49 AM
Now let the whining entitled kids continue to cry, even after buffing it. Some people are never happy until they... well... turn your country into Venezuela.
PoE Enjoyer for over a decade, and counting...
Bring harvest back...
Almost every streamer which brings more new players to the game is quitting already, seems like the state of the game is very good i see.
ive been counting rares in maps and running some experiments. looking at the drops they are giving. the game just feels empty and its just a shell of its former glory.

I have zero interest to play. this is definitely the worst league i've ever played. When i played 3.17 i was blow away by the scope of the game, the investment the company had made to make it so engaging, the multiple ways to craft gear... when i got into the cold river map i was like, "holy shit this is the best game ive ever played. its the GOAT."

I dont even know what to say.... whatever has been done since 3.17 just remove it. start again.

is it the fact the GGG team invested so much time and effort into the archnemesis mods and you were all really pumped and thought that everyone would love it and the blood sweat and tears put into making this....

its like... when metallica or your favourite band decides on a different direction and its just complete shit. you stop listening. the crowd gets smaller and smaller, sure, you get a few new fans here and there. and then the band fades off into nothingness. and twenty years later they come back and do a reunion tour. they play all the old songs... because time has passed and in that time they have had a moment of self reflection and realised what they made was complete garbage. and on the reunion tour they only play all the old songs. because no one wants to hear that "new" shit. and when you find out they're playing all the old songs. you buy a ticket, because that's what the fans want.

classic WoW is a great example of this happening in the video game industry.

sometimes an artist makes something that they feel is so cool and amazing. but everyone else looks at it and thinks its shit. and it is shit. and the hardest part about that, as an artist myself, is taking a step back and realising, "damn, yeh, they're right.... wtf was i thinking. im too self absorbed"

with my band, im like, "boys i spend two weeks perfecting this song. listen to this."

and they're like, "ahh dude thats kind of shit."

it fucking hurts. but its the truth, and the truth must be met with acceptance.

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