Intuitive Link
When intuitive link uses blade vortex the blades appear around the caster of the link.
But when using voltaxic burst it drops them on the ground. Is this difference intentional? and if so why? |
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Frst i have to say that i like the new Link Spells. THey are a good idea to improve the party and group play in the game. But it needs some adjustment.
Please remove the duration on link skills and make them permanent. Recasting them every few seconds just to have a cool party play interaction is way to tidius. Also targeting the right player/minion to link even without a chaotic battle going on is hard to do. Especially on console where aiming is already a challenge. I see no reason why there is a duration on the Link Spells in the first place. It does not help balance the skills in its interactions nor in its damage potential. I understand GGG wants more active gameplay. But that is not the way to do it. Please consider a rework to the duration part of the skills. Thank you! |
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EDIT @ Midnight after posting the below... I needed to come back here and exlaim my bewilderment at the minion mastery "Life skills can target damageable minions" ... This actually allows you to (inadvertently) link with OTHER PLAYERS' MINIONS?!.... Absurd.
Original post I love intuitive link and have been using it fairly extensively since its release. I mainly play support builds for friends in the early push then switch to public mapping when they grow tired. I've tried many iterations and there are some really fun interactions to be had but I have to agree with the consensus that the "You die if your linked target dies" really kills its use in party play, instead of encouraging party play it encourages duo play or minion linking where you can work around the strength of your link. I would really like to see some scaling on the death mechanic... It makes sense that if you are a duo and your duo dies, so do you. But if you are in a party scale it down.. 2 links (with players) = 85% ehp per linked death 3 links = 75% ehp 4 links = 65% ehp 5 links = 55% ehp Dramatically extend or remove the duration. Curse support using intuitive link for carry to apply relevant curses with hexblast/bloom/punishment for extra chain explosion clear :) POB:
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Any incoming updates about these link gem's problems? Any news from the devs?
Neden yaşıyorsun?
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Finally getting around to trying Intuitive Link with minions and...
...how is anyone supposed to link a specific minion? This skill and tree node is absolutely 100% dead -- there's no reliable way to link the minion you need (Guardian in my case, as would be most minion builds as all the other minions are designed to die and be easily replaced). And since death of the target is the gigantic downside, you'd think someone at GGG would have made some effort making it work if they're adding it to the tree. Others have mentioned additional shortcomings, but man just allow the link to be initiated and targetable via the Minion Icon target at the top, and then a useless skill suddenly becomes somewhat approachable, which is should have been from the beginning. Am I missing something? It's already virtually impossible to target a minion in your own hideout chilled, let along trying to target a minion in the middle of a fight. I'm the Ps guy: Psomm, Pso, Psong, pso-on and pso-phorth.
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Liked the idea, but the duration makes it really not fun on a minion build.
And why did GGG "fix" the ability to target immortal minions? Spirits would have been to good casting 1 nova every .5s? |
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Playing summon holy relic with some monkey specters and an animate guardian. I tried using intuitive link for some QoL by having it trigger my desecrate/spirit offering and was thinking if it was good I could also have it trigger consecrated ground or something.
It turns out its actually a nightmare to use and the opposite of QoL. Its impossible to tell which of my 6 minions the link is going to go on and I need to reapply it waaaaaay too frequently. Maybe if the duration was 30 seconds or tbh if it lasted forever would be a good place to start. In my case its not a huge deal if it goes on my specters or my holy relics but targeting is probably the worst part of the skill when used with minions. Its actually impossible to aim at minions while they are running around and I don't think I've successfully put it on the target I was aiming for a single time. The absolute worst part of the skill though, is that I need to be careful to basically never play in a party or click on a skeleton shrine or summon a totem or a phantasm or any durationed minion because if I use this skill under any of those conditions I will die. I think for flavor the link making both of you die together is pretty cool, but its REALLY annoying gameplay wise and makes the skill not fun to use regardless of its power level. |
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How does IIR and IIQ work with intuitive link? If I have a bunch of magic find and link to a buddy who does not and my triggered spell kills the mob, does it count as my kill for magic find or theirs?
If they have Southbound equipped and I don't, we can already see that my spell that they trigger is killing the mobs. But does the magic find roll use theirs or my magic find stats? |
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Link skills should either have an indefinite duration or work on mana reservation, the way they they are now they just don't work. Not being able to cast on temporary minions would be great too.
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Please just rework it.
Current (simplified) : - Base duration is (8-9.9) seconds - Supported Spells deal (44-38)% less Damage - 0,5s cooldown Would be amazing to have something like: - Base duration is (10-12) seconds - Supported Spells deal (44-38)% less Damage - 0,20s cooldown - Triggered spells Cast Time is added to their Cooldown It would at least allow to spec into cast speed, try to build something around this gem... |
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