[3.15]Expedition PENANCE/ SPARK Aura Stack, 50M+ DPS, BEST BUILD IN GAME | 20-30 EX BUDGET VIDEO

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hackulow wrote:
Can anyone give me some advice on where I am going wrong,

I don't seem to be very tanky nor do I do as much damage as I wish I was doing.

Below is my gear I have enough mana for all auras with around 150 left over.

I just don't know where to go, just took on sirus 5 and barely won with 1 portal left.
Gear


Also have a shavs if LL is any better.



If it makes a difference I have around 30ex I can drop into upgrades/changes.



I'm not using spark so I don't know much. But in order for spark to work, you need more aura effect than what you have. I'm talking about single targets. And it's much worse on Sirus 'cause you can't rely on flask for some additional dmg. Also, considering the open layout of Sirus fight, your dps is worse. I think you're probably fine with normal map boss right? You can just for a bit and they die. But for sirus, it's not gonna happen.

It's not much of an advice but I'd say don't use spark for Sirus. At least for your current setup. Also prioritize to make your resistances 90%. That would boost dps and tankyness at the same time. With your current aura effect, you need at least level 23 purities. You could do that by putting level 21 on Alpha's Howl. LL is much stronger if you want that route. In terms of tankyness, I don't know why CI is more tanky as what ppl say other than the fact that chaos dmg is not an issue and you don't have to get chaos resistances in your gear. Other than that, I'm really not sure. If chaos dmg immunity is what makes it tanky, then that's the explanation. Actually, if anyone can explain why CI is more tanky (if it actually is), that would be appreciated. I'm actually using CI myself and I'd say I'm more tanky. But I have more gears than what I used to have when I'm LL so I'm not sure if it actually is more tanky.

But yeah, I'm being off-topic here. TLDR; dont use Spark on Sirus, at least for now.

Edit: Forgot to mention, you're missing some aura effect in your tree. Upper left and upper right nodes. And use the Glancing Blow points for more cluster. Also get "Charge on Kill" near the scion starting node.

I'm not sure why you said you have all auras. You're missing Vitality, Malevolence, Haste, Grace. Divergent Purity of Elements with Enhance would be a big upgrade.
Last edited by _mrkvn#1264 on Oct 28, 2020, 11:10:13 PM
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_mrkvn wrote:
So in theory, if you already have 90% phys dmg reduction without armour, then armour does nothing. Right?

right (but I don't think it is possible)
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Ruderatus wrote:
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_mrkvn wrote:
So in theory, if you already have 90% phys dmg reduction without armour, then armour does nothing. Right?

right (but I don't think it is possible)


Thanks. Just want to know how phys dmg reduction and armour works.

Cheers!

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FeRR1S wrote:
All prices in your PoB are very outdated even with the ex on 60c, ie: Boots are 10ex instead of 90c (Someone sold these boots for 90c wtf?), medium clusters and rings around 3ex, etc. You got luck or the pob is from standard?


Are you actually complaining? Did you see the date it was posted? Of course it's outdated. Do you know the date today? PoB was created even before I posted that. Am I your slave to update the PoB's price daily for your convenience? Providing you some PoB for your reference and you complain?
Hey there,

I`m really loving this build.
Also did invest a lot of currency and kind of hit a wall right now.
Don`t get me wrong, it destroys everything and the clearspeed is fine.
Still, I`m always looking for upgrades, but I don`t know what I could upgrade next?
Seems like I`d have to either sacrifice a herald and change those medium cluster jewels with purposeful harbinger in order to fit in something like purity of elements or the remaining upgrades are double-corrupted/better items like Shavs, better Nebulis, COTB...am I wrong/missing something?

This is my PoB:
https://pastebin.com/umebjSRf
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ElLoco2836 wrote:
Hey there,

I`m really loving this build.
Also did invest a lot of currency and kind of hit a wall right now.
Don`t get me wrong, it destroys everything and the clearspeed is fine.
Still, I`m always looking for upgrades, but I don`t know what I could upgrade next?
Seems like I`d have to either sacrifice a herald and change those medium cluster jewels with purposeful harbinger in order to fit in something like purity of elements or the remaining upgrades are double-corrupted/better items like Shavs, better Nebulis, COTB...am I wrong/missing something?

This is my PoB:
https://pastebin.com/umebjSRf


- You could always pursue for more aura effect. I see that you have your points allocated on the tree somewhere. A cheap upgrade would be getting 7-passive voices and use those points to fit another medium cluster. I think, in that way, you could get past 400% aura effect if you can get medium clusters with 25% effect + First Among Equals to replace those Purposeful Harbingers, provided your mana reservation is still good.
- Get "Charge on Kill" on the tree for power/frenzy/endurance charge generation.
- Get fire dmg to spells from somewhere to proc additional dmg from Cinderswallow.
- You're right. If you can fit in Divergent Purity of Elements, that would be a nice upgrade.

Cheers!
I’m going massively wrong somewhere. I can’t quite work it out. I die really easy. Can’t complete labs. Literally have no spa which I understand my auras are low levels. But I really can’t work out what auras I should and can be using.

I’m trying the arc build at the moment with hopes of changing to winter orb ASAP. But literally can’t work out where I’m going so wrong. I’m a casual player so yea I’m a bit stupid. But really fancied a scion build for ages now but can’t get this one working. From previous experience I literally changed up a small amount of things to make quality of life so much better. If anyone can look over my character Sensorby and point me in the right direction It be much appreciated.
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Sensta_X wrote:
I’m going massively wrong somewhere. I can’t quite work it out. I die really easy. Can’t complete labs. Literally have no spa which I understand my auras are low levels. But I really can’t work out what auras I should and can be using.

I’m trying the arc build at the moment with hopes of changing to winter orb ASAP. But literally can’t work out where I’m going so wrong. I’m a casual player so yea I’m a bit stupid. But really fancied a scion build for ages now but can’t get this one working. From previous experience I literally changed up a small amount of things to make quality of life so much better. If anyone can look over my character Sensorby and point me in the right direction It be much appreciated.


Work your way backwards. You are level 70. Your gem levels are low. What could you do? You could level start with levelling your gems. But you couldn't do that 'cause you don't have the necessary auras to even do a bit of dmg and have a bit of defence. That means you need to have your auras activated first. How to do that? Get mana reservation jewels. You could refer to my starting PoB on Page 20 to see how much RMRs you need to fit the minimum required auras.

So the takeaway is that, activate as much auras as possible. You couldn't do anything before that.
Perfect. Thank you. I know I’m low at the moment lol I’ve really been struggling with this character but I’m loving the challenge.

Il do exactly what you’ve said tonight. Get that Reserved mana sorted. Medium clusters too. And try get some levels powered into my auras or might even power level some on my Slayer (cyclone which is tedious and boring AF lol) might get a lab carry and a couple Xophs keystones just to speed things up.

Hopefully I’m on the right path. Always seen streamers do WORB builds and wanted to try it for so long. But that’s quite a way away yet.

The voices jewels are 14ex each on PS4 SC. Don’t play HC on PS4 coz the amount it crashes. (Fingers crossed it’s been good past few week)

Again thanks for your time. Il report back when I ain’t such a scrub.
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_mrkvn wrote:
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ElLoco2836 wrote:
Hey there,

I`m really loving this build.
Also did invest a lot of currency and kind of hit a wall right now.
Don`t get me wrong, it destroys everything and the clearspeed is fine.
Still, I`m always looking for upgrades, but I don`t know what I could upgrade next?
Seems like I`d have to either sacrifice a herald and change those medium cluster jewels with purposeful harbinger in order to fit in something like purity of elements or the remaining upgrades are double-corrupted/better items like Shavs, better Nebulis, COTB...am I wrong/missing something?

This is my PoB:
https://pastebin.com/umebjSRf


- You could always pursue for more aura effect. I see that you have your points allocated on the tree somewhere. A cheap upgrade would be getting 7-passive voices and use those points to fit another medium cluster. I think, in that way, you could get past 400% aura effect if you can get medium clusters with 25% effect + First Among Equals to replace those Purposeful Harbingers, provided your mana reservation is still good.
- Get "Charge on Kill" on the tree for power/frenzy/endurance charge generation.
- Get fire dmg to spells from somewhere to proc additional dmg from Cinderswallow.
- You're right. If you can fit in Divergent Purity of Elements, that would be a nice upgrade.

Cheers!


First of all, thanks for your input mate!

Concerning a Voices Cluster:
Using a 7-passive Voices would increase my dps by roughly 2.5m, but I would loose around 400 ES and some evasion. 2xPurposeful Harbinger grant me around 32% inc aura effect from my 2 heralds (correct me if I`m wrong?). So dropping both is what kind of makes that dps bump that small. All this was tested in PoB.

I feel like saving up for a 5-passive Voices is the way to go.
I´m not that far from being able to buy one :)

Another question regarding Glancing Blows:
Is it worth it, going down the left side of the tree to get it with a Thread of Hope jewel?
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FeRR1S wrote:
Been following _mrkvn PoB on page 20, very useful.

Im level 72, got 14 auras and awesome clear damage. Maybe this has got answered but:

Now, this is a VERY GOOD start. Activating auras is the most important thing.

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FeRR1S wrote:

1.- Whats next to upgrade from this point?

Here are the possible changes you could do:
- Remove Arcane Vision from your tree and use the point somewhere else. Arcane Vision is just QoL. Use it for either, another aura effect, reduce mana reserve node near the one where the Intuitive Leap is, another jewel socket for RMR jewel if you need more RMR, or get another ES node on the middle of the tree that is affected by Might of the Meek.
- You can also drop the passive from Templar starting node as you're not using Pure Talent and use the point for more aura effect.

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FeRR1S wrote:

2.- If im not able to buy the 30ex large clusters should i change to other cheaper build?

I'm not using the 30ex Large Cluster. Which one is the 30ex again? I'm using the cheapest one which has 7 passives. Just 1 and 2 other normal large cluster. Even with my setup, I already made past 400% aura effect, which is a big achievement for me. The thing is, this build is so much dependent on gear setup. If you change even one thing, the setup will not work. My point is that, it's possible on my current setup. I'm not sure if it'll work on others. With "setup", I mean where you get your RMRs, how much is your RMR, where you get your aura (could be gem or from corruption) and the like. I'm actually doing fine without the Voice Large Cluster. I just wanted to put more aura effect into my build so I opt to use it. Really depend on you. The build will still work without it. But if you want more aura effect, you'd use it at some point.

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FeRR1S wrote:

3.- I get oneshoted by basically any monster, 2.8k ES.

You're still low level, so it could be solved with more levels. As I level, I put more points, for the meantime, on those ES nodes in the middle of the tree. Helped a lot. But I can't help you further if that does not solve the problem of you being one-shotted. It was also my problem back then. And my solution is trying CI. I'm really not sure why it solved the problem as it should only affect the chaos dmg part but yeah. Don't try to go CI as your solution, yet, as it would require you to change gears again. Your solution for now is get more levels and gem levels. Try to buy level 21 Discipline for additional ES.

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FeRR1S wrote:

4.- One important question. Does make so much (Alot?) difference between having gems on level ~17 and having them on 20 (3 levels) that i wont die instant?

Gem levels are so important. Would that solve your instant dying problem? I don't know. You have to get those gem levels first and then we'd see. And also, this is depending on what killed you so you'd know how to solve it. Focus on getting resistance to 90% as that would both increase defence and dmg. If you're still being one-shotted even if you have 90%, then that's another problem for later.

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FeRR1S wrote:

5.- Bosses takes ages to die with ARC/Winter Orb

Do the above and this will be solved eventually. But do not use Winter Orb. As the build utilizes conversion scaling, Winter Orb does not benefit on that. Winter Orb is already a cold skill while skills such as Arc and Spark is lightning which will then be converted to cold. If you really want to use Winter Orb, you can use it when you feel like your current skill is so strong that dmg is not a problem anymore. But still take note that Winter Orb will always result to dps loss. So for example, if you have 20m dps already and you don't need that much, you could change to Winter Orb for just 10m dps and still good enough for you. This is by no means hard number but just an example. I'm not really sure how much dps you'd lose. I'm really not sure what's the benefit of using Winter Orb. There's the clearing, yes, but Spark could do that for you. Haven't played enough with Winter Orb yet but most probably I'd give it another try later 'cause I want to at least make it work. But I need too much dmg for that, so yeah.

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