[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

thats great to hear! thanks alot for that advice, i will going to 30 HoA then.

But im currently at 28 HoA.
21 Gem
+1 Chest
+2 Global Modifiers (Wand i assume)
+4 Emporer

So its necessary a +2 Skin of the Royal?
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Patrice_ wrote:
thats great to hear! thanks alot for that advice, i will going to 30 HoA then.

But im currently at 28 HoA.
21 Gem
+1 Chest
+2 Global Modifiers (Wand i assume)
+4 Emporer

So its necessary a +2 Skin of the Royal?


Yes because when you go from +1 to +2 chest it actually gives you 2 levels to HOA not just 1 because empower also buffs the level.
I've seen a lot of mention of 2R-2G-2B and 2R-4G combinations as alternatives, but is 1R-3G-2B worth going for on a +2 skin?

If you replace DOFL with Deathmark, it's a DPS drop on general mob clear but you get similar levels of DPS when Deathmark is active on a boss. Plus Deathmark is pretty good QoL, especially for metamorphs to stop your crawler getting distracted by adds.
I dont understand how you get agony crawler to come out, i have everything but jewels over 30c and i cant get ANY virulence stacks.
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shinodin666 wrote:
I dont understand how you get agony crawler to come out, i have everything but jewels over 30c and i cant get ANY virulence stacks.


You have no Circle of Nostalgia to give you flat chaos damage on your Ball Lightning. You need to use Lesser Poison on your Ball Lightning link to give you that flat chaos damage until you can afford a Circle of Nostalgia.
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scrambled777 wrote:
I've seen a lot of mention of 2R-2G-2B and 2R-4G combinations as alternatives, but is 1R-3G-2B worth going for on a +2 skin?

If you replace DOFL with Deathmark, it's a DPS drop on general mob clear but you get similar levels of DPS when Deathmark is active on a boss. Plus Deathmark is pretty good QoL, especially for metamorphs to stop your crawler getting distracted by adds.


any combination that isn't a 3blue is a good combo. the dps loss between any of them is basically non existant when it comes to bossing so i'm not sure why people try so hard to get 3g2r1b.

my current gear is as follows.

4g1b1r - 4.9m shaper dps.
4g2r - 4.87m shaper dps
3g2r1b - 4.99m shaper dps.
3g1r2b - 5.22m shaper dps (with deathmark)
2g2r2b - 5.3m shaper dps (with deathmark)
any 3 blue combo will struggle to hit 4m dps so never go for this

any of those will clear trash indentically and bossing will be the same too as deathmark is easy to manage there.

so the real answer is just to get whatever you can buy for cheaper because it has basically no impact on your final dps. i personally went with one of the first two options. why? the 4th green link is less mana than any of the other options which allowed me to save 3 points on the tree for the final reservation node. that gave me about 600 more ES
Last edited by crazypearce on Jan 9, 2020, 5:11:55 PM
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crazypearce wrote:

any combination that isn't a 3blue is a good combo. the dps loss between any of them is basically non existant when it comes to bossing so i'm not sure why people try so hard to get 3g2r1b.

my current gear is as follows.

4g1b1r - 4.9m shaper dps.
4g2r - 4.87m shaper dps
3g2r1b - 4.99m shaper dps.
3g1r2b - 5.22m shaper dps (with deathmark)
2g2r2b - 5.3m shaper dps (with deathmark)
any 3 blue combo will struggle to hit 4m dps so never go for this

any of those will clear trash indentically and bossing will be the same too as deathmark is easy to manage there.

so the real answer is just to get whatever you can buy for cheaper because it has basically no impact on your final dps. i personally went with one of the first two options. why? the 4th green link is less mana than any of the other options which allowed me to save 3 points on the tree for the final reservation node. that gave me about 600 more ES


Yeah the difference in single-target DPS between a lot of different colour combinations seems pretty negligible unless you are going for the ultra min-max. Clear DPS might be a bigger difference as Vile Toxins and Deathmark won't be at their full potential, but once you get to level 31 HoAG any combination is going to be over-kill anyway so you're not going to notice the difference.

Striving for a 20-25ex Skin seems a lot more realistic than trying to go for an 80ex version.
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Which color Skin would you recommend to get started with the rest of what you mentioned?


The last post on page 203 gives a good overview of the color options. Also it is worth mentioning that skin of the lords tends to be cheaper than skin of the loyal, though you are forced to use corrupted gems and have to be careful not to get a keystone that bricks the build.
I'm using 2/2/2 and messing around a little with Mana reservation. My idea is to switch out Pierce for awakened viscious projectiles for bossing. Even using Pierce and deathmark my clear speed is just fine though, it's not the absolute fastest but it's solid enough.

I'll probably spam lab runs this weekend to see if I can get something useful on my helmet and go from there.

But overall I'm pretty satisfied with where I'm standing now. I love that the build is still pretty flexible even with the mandatory uniques there's still so much stuff to look at/improve and test out. It's a lot of fun.
Last edited by bluesylph on Jan 9, 2020, 5:29:18 PM
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crazypearce wrote:
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scrambled777 wrote:
I've seen a lot of mention of 2R-2G-2B and 2R-4G combinations as alternatives, but is 1R-3G-2B worth going for on a +2 skin?

If you replace DOFL with Deathmark, it's a DPS drop on general mob clear but you get similar levels of DPS when Deathmark is active on a boss. Plus Deathmark is pretty good QoL, especially for metamorphs to stop your crawler getting distracted by adds.


any combination that isn't a 3blue is a good combo. the dps loss between any of them is basically non existant when it comes to bossing so i'm not sure why people try so hard to get 3g2r1b.

my current gear is as follows.

4g1b1r - 4.9m shaper dps.
4g2r - 4.87m shaper dps
3g2r1b - 4.99m shaper dps.
3g1r2b - 5.22m shaper dps (with deathmark)
2g2r2b - 5.3m shaper dps (with deathmark)
any 3 blue combo will struggle to hit 4m dps so never go for this

any of those will clear trash indentically and bossing will be the same too as deathmark is easy to manage there.

so the real answer is just to get whatever you can buy for cheaper because it has basically no impact on your final dps. i personally went with one of the first two options. why? the 4th green link is less mana than any of the other options which allowed me to save 3 points on the tree for the final reservation node. that gave me about 600 more ES


What are my gem links with the 4g1b1r option?

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