[3.20] Level with VAAL FLICKER STRIKE from LV28 - LEAGUE START

I've been following this guide for years now and it's so good to see it being updated. Thanks a lot for the effort!
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m2abrams15 wrote:
Do we know how this will work with impale? And does the fact that you can't use multistrike on VFlicker break flicker normally?


works with impale but you only get 1 impale with vaal flicker. So there will be a delay in the damage.

you can still socket it with multistrike and use Vaal Flicker. It just wont give you the damage/speed bonus
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carrlossss wrote:
I've been following this guide for years now and it's so good to see it being updated. Thanks a lot for the effort!


Awesome!
What are your thoughts about using rebuke of the vaal with a shield? Is this sword still viable? I always been curious about it having so much dps but no one uses it
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carrlossss wrote:
What are your thoughts about using rebuke of the vaal with a shield? Is this sword still viable? I always been curious about it having so much dps but no one uses it


Oh that was on this guide before. I thought the price went up but I guess not. It's. Thats a good 1 hand choice.
sound like you got some clarification on impale. would you mind elaborating?

do the 26 hits hit for 0 dmg or does it just hit once at the end?


the reason i am asking is because i want to use Impaler. the 4 second rule worries me. if i hit for 0 impale, will it block me from getting an impale on the final hit?
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locerto wrote:
sound like you got some clarification on impale. would you mind elaborating?

do the 26 hits hit for 0 dmg or does it just hit once at the end?


the reason i am asking is because i want to use Impaler. the 4 second rule worries me. if i hit for 0 impale, will it block me from getting an impale on the final hit?


good question... i dont know how impaler will work.

I dont know why you would ever want to use impaler in a flicker build. Impaler is good for builds that attack very slowly. You'll have less dps if you are attacking more than once per second.

The exception is if Impaler will give 5 stacks of huge vaal flicker impales, worth 26 x 5 = 130 attack hits. Then, that would be super strong!

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I dont know why you would ever want to use impaler in a flicker build. Impaler is good for builds that attack very slowly. You'll have less dps if you are attacking more than once per second.



so i think we are thinking about it a little wrong. how often are you going to attack the same mob more than 2 times?

this is effectively doubling your hits for a shorter burst.

an enemy that would take 3 hits would now take two, 5 = 3, 7 = 4, 9 = 5,
11 = 6 (master of metal), also you can take the nodes that give huge impale effect if the enemy had no impale stacks prior. effectively giving you 2.2 total dmg per hit.


If an enemy would normally take more than 11 attacks before dying you probably should be using vaal flicker anyways.

so the question is will it work on the vaal flicker.

also the impale overwelm physical dmg looks like it can be brought to around 95%

effectively nulling all defense everything up until uber (according to pob)
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locerto wrote:
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I dont know why you would ever want to use impaler in a flicker build. Impaler is good for builds that attack very slowly. You'll have less dps if you are attacking more than once per second.



so i think we are thinking about it a little wrong. how often are you going to attack the same mob more than 2 times?

this is effectively doubling your hits for a shorter burst.

an enemy that would take 3 hits would now take two, 5 = 3, 7 = 4, 9 = 5,
11 = 6 (master of metal), also you can take the nodes that give huge impale effect if the enemy had no impale stacks prior. effectively giving you 2.2 total dmg per hit.


If an enemy would normally take more than 11 attacks before dying you probably should be using vaal flicker anyways.

so the question is will it work on the vaal flicker.

also the impale overwelm physical dmg looks like it can be brought to around 95%

effectively nulling all defense everything up until uber (according to pob)


I don't follow what youre saying. With impaler, enemies will only ever have up to 5 impales on them. If you take Master of metal or other sources of +1 impale, I don't know why you'd ever want to take impaler. Impaler is for slow attacking builds.

Also, vaal flicker is quite bad for clearing maps. I'd only use it vs bosses or tough enemies, but if there are ads, that will plummet the dps because you will flicker towards them.

Vaal flicker is 26 attacks. If you add impale to that, you'll need 31 attacks to get to max DPS. It's not a short burst. "an enemy that would take 3 hits would now take two" --- no, it will take 26 at least

I'm probably still not understanding what youre saying. Where is the double dmg coming from?


Good to see you back/updating this thread, I remember seeing you in one of my matches in some other game during this 2 year hiatus :P

Will be interesting to see what Sanctum relics we can build into flicker strike builds

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