[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

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bridgeburner wrote:

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clindberg88 wrote:

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bridgeburner wrote:

So, being SSF, I don't like wasting anything. Especially corrupted red maps that have ele reflect on them. Does anyone have any tips on ways to run these maps? I've thought about swapping to chaos DOT skills, but the damage seems pretty low.

You don't take damage from reflected with your damage over time.
However your initial hits will hurt you!
Therefor I remove the "trigger casts" since they are all hard hitting skills, and then I've been able to run a t13 with reflect.

You still have to be careful though!

All of our dot skills (Cold snap and vortex) have an initial hit that's enough to kill you though. I'm not sure how you managed to do that. I tried a reflect map before and just instantly died the first time I popped vortex on a pack.

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bridgeburner wrote:

Ok I did manage to do it. Switching to Yugul ascendancy helps. Just a matter of positioning and not hitting the pack directly

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Anointedone wrote:

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bridgeburner wrote:

Ok I did manage to do it. Switching to Yugul ascendancy helps. Just a matter of positioning and not hitting the pack directly

The initial hit of vortex will kill you, but you can lure mobs into it. It will take a lot longer, but reflect is doable. If you have the currency, you can also roll the map mod “cannot take damage from reflect” with sextants. I’m not in HC or SSF, so it’s a little easier to build up currency. But it is an option for reflect maps. There really aren’t many builds that can run EVERY map mod, and be tanky with a lot of damage. Aside from sabo arc trapper, that’s a build you can run the entire game with no issues. If that’s what you want you can always check the forums. This build actually can run every mod with ease, just not reflect.

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clindberg88 wrote:

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Anointedone wrote:

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bridgeburner wrote:

Ok I did manage to do it. Switching to Yugul ascendancy helps. Just a matter of positioning and not hitting the pack directly

The initial hit of vortex will kill you, but you can lure mobs into it. It will take a lot longer, but reflect is doable. If you have the currency, you can also roll the map mod “cannot take damage from reflect” with sextants. I’m not in HC or SSF, so it’s a little easier to build up currency. But it is an option for reflect maps. There really aren’t many builds that can run EVERY map mod, and be tanky with a lot of damage. Aside from sabo arc trapper, that’s a build you can run the entire game with no issues. If that’s what you want you can always check the forums. This build actually can run every mod with ease, just not reflect.

What about no regen? I've been stearing clear of those, but I'm not entirely sure how it works for us. Is it just energy shield per second, or does it also halt our recharge?

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Anointedone wrote:

Ah true, I didn’t think of those because alchemy orbs are cheap and I usually roll those off. Not sure if it halts our ES recharge, but I definitely don’t run “no mana regen” simply because I’m too lazy to switch to a mana flask. I run this build because I have the currency to avoid bad mods, if I didn’t I would probably just run arc trapper sabo, but it’s boring and makes the game even easier than this build lol. Also, no regen sucks for pretty much every build to be honest. That’s the fun of this game though, trying out different builds for different purposes.

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clindberg88 wrote:

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Anointedone wrote:

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bridgeburner wrote:

Ok I did manage to do it. Switching to Yugul ascendancy helps. Just a matter of positioning and not hitting the pack directly

The initial hit of vortex will kill you, but you can lure mobs into it. It will take a lot longer, but reflect is doable. If you have the currency, you can also roll the map mod “cannot take damage from reflect” with sextants. I’m not in HC or SSF, so it’s a little easier to build up currency. But it is an option for reflect maps. There really aren’t many builds that can run EVERY map mod, and be tanky with a lot of damage. Aside from sabo arc trapper, that’s a build you can run the entire game with no issues. If that’s what you want you can always check the forums. This build actually can run every mod with ease, just not reflect.

What about no regen? I've been stearing clear of those, but I'm not entirely sure how it works for us. Is it just energy shield per second, or does it also halt our recharge?

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bridgeburner wrote:

So, no regen only applies to the life regen converted to es regen that we get. It doesn't apply to energy shield recharge. That happens after a few seconds of taking no damage. So no regen is totally doable if you're careful. Just bring a mana flask and try not to spam your skills as much.