|| Discharge Witch Build || 50k+ AOE DPS 0.11.c

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LemmiwinksGerbil wrote:
A few questions I got about this build. What curse is best I've seen bunch of conflicting stuff warlords mark crit weakness ele weakness conduct frostbite lol. Second is do I really need a 2nd enduring cry gem? Also do I need to use a seperate key for each cry or can I just use the one cry twice on the same key. Lastly I got volls protector. If I use power charge on crit would I get double the power charges has that been tested. Thanks a lot. Looks like a lot of fun besides the ele reflect. Once I get capped resist with vaal pact I'm sure itd be fine


I've found Enduring Cry does nothing but make your life harder. It stops your skele totem from working and its a waste of time casting it. Warlords Mark is so much better if you can get a high quality one. 50% chance to get an Endurance Charge on kill means you'll get them passively while you play.

Power charge on crit will give you 1 extra power charge, unlike volls which gives 1 for each mob you hit. Waste of a slot for sure.
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nightblade157 wrote:
how about ice spear + lmp/gmp + faster cast + power charge on crit instead of using volls? that way u free up chest slot for high ES armor or even shavronne for really OP discharge (RF/PA for another 120% more spell dmg)


Ice spear has a kinda slow cast speed and PCoC only gives 1 charge at a time. It will slow down clear speed considerably at the expense of a bit of survivability. Ice spear + increased crit damage is also necessary for killing ele reflect, so you won't have any defense against that unless you go Vaal Pact + Ghost Reaver.
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lukeiy wrote:
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lukeiy wrote:
Passives? Gear? It took a while before I could run both but pretty sure it was by around level 60.


It probably is my gear though. I've always had terrible luck in gear and currency. I've been playing since August and I have found only 1 exalt.

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Both of your rings and amulets can be replaced. Get an Atziri's Foible, it will greatly reduce your mana issues and help you use higher level warlords mark and blood rage. I don't know Anarchy prices but it shouldn't be expensive.

Get some +mana or %mana regen on your rings. That should pretty much solve your mana issues i think.

Why are you using enduring cry? Warlords mark is a much better alternative for getting Endurance charges. They aren't even necessary, just a nice bonus if you get them while you are killing. Also why are you using increased critical damage instead of concentrated effect on discharge? The difference is doing slightly more damage when you crit versus guaranteed killing of all whites and many blues.


Thanks for the help doing all that you said now. Gonna be hard to find rings/amulets but thanks.
wouldn't running dual curse (using the ring) and using ele weakness and flammability not make more sense for this build rather than using warlords. I prefer using the enduring cry gems for this. It amps your damage hugely vs bosses and single targets.

You can also benefit hugely from this if you run elemental proliferation to spread huge burning DoTs across packs. I'm not sure, but If you have tons of currency to spend on a GG Helm,gloves and boots, you could probably run searing touch for even more GG AoE.
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Last edited by conall88#6280 on Jun 17, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
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conall88 wrote:
wouldn't running dual curse (using the ring) and using ele weakness and flammability not make more sense for this build rather than using warlords. I prefer using the enduring cry gems for this. It amps your damage hugely vs bosses and single targets.

You can also benefit hugely from this if you run elemental proliferation to spread huge burning DoTs across packs. I'm not sure, but If you have tons of currency to spend on a GG Helm,gloves and boots, you could probably run searing touch for even more GG AoE.


By that point you've pretty much changed into a pure endurance charge build which is entirely different. Getting 1 charge at a time versus bosses and single targets is quite slow, which is why I like to use Ice Spear with LMP. It can hit 3 times on 1 boss for 3 charges, casts faster than Enduring Cry and with crit multi does good damage also.

Not saying endurance focussed discharge builds aren't good, it's just a different playstyle all together and the passive tree looks quite different.

Just my opinion:
Endurance discharge builds excel at packs of normal and magic monsters. Slowed down a lot by High HP rares, Unique mobs and Bosses when there are no extra mobs around. Discharge damage is more reliable but can't burst anywhere near as high because less crit.

This build is not as reliable at maintaining charges because it relies on crit, or mobs to kill, but you have a fall back of a powerful ice spear for single targets which also gathers charges much faster when there is only 1 enemy. A better all rounder.
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Hey why did you remove the gameplay video?
Any advice in what blue support to run in place of crit damage?
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Meadowvale wrote:
Hey why did you remove the gameplay video?


I realised the vid was linked with my gmail which I use for job applications hehe. I'll upload a new one soon anyway, probably a map video.

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Justifiedsoul wrote:
Any advice in what blue support to run in place of crit damage?


Crit chance? I would reroll the colours so I could slot item quantity or maybe iron will if you need more damage.
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lukeiy wrote:

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Justifiedsoul wrote:
Any advice in what blue support to run in place of crit damage?


Crit chance? I would reroll the colours so I could slot item quantity or maybe iron will if you need more damage.


Alright thanks. I think i'll run it with Crit chance for now. I was hoping to get it six linked (Crazy i know). That's why i aimed for 5b 1r. Item quantity and Rarity. Then the 3 bread and butter with some extra kick.
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Justifiedsoul wrote:
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lukeiy wrote:

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Justifiedsoul wrote:
Any advice in what blue support to run in place of crit damage?


Crit chance? I would reroll the colours so I could slot item quantity or maybe iron will if you need more damage.


Alright thanks. I think i'll run it with Crit chance for now. I was hoping to get it six linked (Crazy i know). That's why i aimed for 5b 1r. Item quantity and Rarity. Then the 3 bread and butter with some extra kick.


Out of curiosity, did you buy or craft your 5-link? Just looking to get an idea on how much it will cost to get.
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