[3.6] Triple Herald Blade Vortex Elementalist

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Gods_Guardians wrote:

So what is the pros vs cons of running shield charge vs whirling blades. Shield charge is faster and i assume more tankier, do you have more damage with a 2nd dagger or scepter?

It's a second stat stick, damage will be much higher. You're exchanging defense for damage.

looking forward to this tonight... it will be my first BV character ever. played most of builds plenty of times so definitely pumped to try this

Going to be following this guide as my league starter for Incursion can't wait!

Question though! Even though the patch notes have a insane amount of damage buffs and let you swap spell echo for another damage support gem, how much is the damage increased really with the fact that you will be doing less damage since you have half the max amount of blades.

I am gonna assume all the changes are still a buff especially with adding a gem other than spell echo, but looking at the spell it gets a large damage buff per blade and if you can only have a max of 10 blades seems like the buffs aren't that big.

Would love a response to this if possible, thanks again!

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Notsavard wrote:

Going to be following this guide as my league starter for Incursion can't wait!

Question though! Even though the patch notes have a insane amount of damage buffs and let you swap spell echo for another damage support gem, how much is the damage increased really with the fact that you will be doing less damage since you have half the max amount of blades.

I am gonna assume all the changes are still a buff especially with adding a gem other than spell echo, but looking at the spell it gets a large damage buff per blade and if you can only have a max of 10 blades seems like the buffs aren't that big.

Would love a response to this if possible, thanks again!

the max number of blades has been halved but they increased bonuses per blade accordingly so the overall damage is roughly the same as before.

Any chance this build could support inspired learning jewels?

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Shukketsu wrote:

Any chance this build could support inspired learning jewels?

sure

Can this build farm Uber Lab or is better to just do a Pathfinder?

CAn you post a pic of the skilltree you will be going for? I see so many differend trees here... will you go with with the nodes under the life wheel?
Do you take more point at the Coldhearted Caculation area?

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Shukketsu wrote:

Any chance this build could support inspired learning jewels?

You would have to take some pretty inefficient nodes to support it, either grabbing alchemist (Not a bad option especially if you have good flasks), dark arts (not very efficient) and a power charge (Not needed) or a power charge, faith and steel and an endurance charge by templar.

If you are concentrating on pure clearspeed, and don't mind losing some life and or single target damage then it might be an ok option - in that case go with the witch nodes as alchemist and dark arts help there. Or take both, but that is a lot of points used!

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TheSunliight wrote:

CAn you post a pic of the skilltree you will be going for? I see so many differend trees here... will you go with with the nodes under the life wheel?
Do you take more point at the Coldhearted Caculation area?

i will be following the tree i specified in the guide: http://www.poeurl.com/bVnd

Here's my reasoning for taking the second duration cluster:

* BV effectively got at least 30% more damage increase so there is no pressure to squeeze every little piece of damage off the tree.

* It still takes 3-3.3 seconds to spin up to maximum blades. with just a single duration cluster that leaves only 4 seconds of "operational" time before you need to stop and recast. Second duration cluster adds 2.25 seconds which is effectively a 50% increase if you only consider the "operational" time. in this sense, duration is damage since you spend more time dealing damage then recasting.

* Duration applies to everything, most importantly arcane surge and vaal blade vortex. this also translates into damage.

* 50% increased life recovery from flasks (from life nodes next to the second duration cluster) is huge early on while you have shabby gear.

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i will unspec the second duration cluster and connecting nodes only after:

a) i obtain the increased bv duration enchant
b) i have 6 links and good weapons that allow me to kill stuff with just 2-3 active blades on


that's the plan anyway