Suggestion: Haste reserves 35% mana instead of 50%

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Turtledove wrote:

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The_Scourge wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Lots of talk about aurabots in this thread. I assume that is a bot that just follows you around from another account and has some auras cast on it? Are aurabots legal?

It's an old term for players who like to be supportive in MMOs and other multiplayer games. Their role is largely to cast auras, buffs and occasionally heal. Healbot and Buffbot are also a thing. It has nothing to do with botting (at least in PoE's context; other games might be a different story) and everything to do with the mindless, automated nature of the character's role.

...I was a great Med-bot on D2 for a long time. Before the runeword came in to grant anyone meditation (curse that fucker, putting me out of a job), there wasn't a single player or party I encountered that didn't appreciate a meditation-holy bolt specced paladin following them around keeping their mana full and their life...well, alive.

I don't really see much need for the support role in PoE outside of the highest content but I'm glad some people go there. :)

Thanks, sounds kind of boring. I guess it might be okay occasionally in an active guild though?

It's REALLY important in MMOs and good players show their support players a lot of love but in PoE, like I said, I don't see much need for it. When I realised this, years ago, that was the moment when I realised PoE would never be a social game for me. I probably supplemented that by being more social here. ;)

Fun little fact: way back on EQ1, a support style character could make serious bank just by sitting along the side of a busy road charging for run speed buffs. Hardly the only example of that, but it shows how other games in other genres give players incentive to be something other than dps machines. Which, let's face it...PoE really doesn't. For all its mechanical depth and complexity, PoE is a very, very simple game. An inch wide and a mile deep, as they say.

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Turtledove wrote:

Lots of talk about aurabots in this thread. I assume that is a bot that just follows you around from another account and has some auras cast on it? Are aurabots legal?

An Aurabot is the name of a build. A build that is typically Low Life and runs as many auras as possible with as much reduced reservation and aura effect as possible. Their soul purpose is to run with partys or others to buff them considerably while mapping. Has nothing to do with botting its just the name the build was given. Its basically a support build. If im not mistaken the name stems from other MMO type games but only one i ever really played was WOW and Aeon for a short time.

Of note with Haste is it's not always worse than something like Hatred for certain builds. Depends on the enemy resistances (and how much of them you can ignore) and how useful the extra run speed is to you despite it not being much. Just have to plug it into Path of Building and see for each character.

I also see no reason why Discipline have 35% when Determination and Grace is 50% when ES dramatically overcomes Evasion that overcomes armour.

Same for purity of elements = purity of ONE element. It shall be 35 for ALL and 25 for ONE element, not 35% for both

And what about STR/DEX requirements? shall it be reduced to 111 instead of 155? For all gems?

I understand Grace being at 50% since it's amazing and one can argue that for the sake of balance it's necessary.

Determination i get why it's 50% after playing ManaGuardian with 70k armor. It's strong, but compared to Grace it's not versatile so 50% seems unreasonable. I would get Determination at 50% if it would have additional effect like flat armor, phys dmg or something extra. 40% seems reasonable, but then it's necessary to calculate other stuff like Hatred, Heralds etc to achieve optimal level of reserve without breaking much other stuff.

Haste - with the level of speed the game is now, and the amount of nerfs Haste got, it seems hard to use at 50%. Usually i have it as swap when running low tier maps , in exchange of Grace, 1:1 , seems OK. Is that good? not really, but there's nothing better for non-phys scaling in a green slot.

I would not use it at 35% either as primary choice. At 25% probably yes, as swap for something like Arctic Armor which is also underpowered, but helps in some scenarios. Again. As a Swap for something else.

i never use haste because of its reservation. with a 35% reservation, i would use them again. same goes for determination

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

I agree that 50% Haste is way overscaled. Problem though, make it reserve less and aurabots will just be that much more ridiculous.

Regardless of whether it's 50% or 35% the build is pretty public knowledge and you've got so much reduced reservation that it hardly matters.

In my personal opinion, aurabots don't need any buffs, no matter how small. As it is, aurabots already break most all resemblances of balance. If GGG ever starts balancing lategame around aurabots, I for one will be one unhappy camper.

It isn't a buff, they can already run everything the fact they have another 2% mana available doesn't mean anything, just makes it more effective for the nobody that currently uses it.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

It isn't a buff, they can already run everything the fact they have another 2% mana available doesn't mean anything, just makes it more effective for the nobody that currently uses it.

You're underestimating the power minmaxers hold~