[3.2] AVP - Abyssal Volatile Poet || Now with MF option

much appreciated for your time to answer all my questions and checking my PoB? i guess :D

-i was going to ask about my attack speed. with %3 %4 attack speeds from tree it doesn't increase much. so thanks for noticing poet pens & making me realize quality frenzy. because it sits at 10lv i totally forgot about it.
-well my fully buffed dmg looks allright with full single target dps but i still don't understand how numbers can be so different from you to me ( ss with 1 link only on guide )
- high dmg roll jewels looks really expensive so after i checked your jewels i thought maybe going for 1dmg mod + crit multi/chance could be easier and cheaper. i'm not so sure how that will affect my dmg tho. gotta do some testings.and i see you instead using 2dmg+hp+resistance you solved your res problem with %10 to all res+hp jewels. so i can have some space for 3dmg mod jewels that would be great.

- what do you think of 1socketed lightpoacher with the enchant. that looks affordable.

- while i'll upgrade my diamond ring , have you considered opal rings ( whites are only 10c right now ) with essence crafted fire damage maybe ?

- arcane surge increases dmg i see that but i like to do dmg and move with body swap when i'm in combat, but when i travel i like warp better. it speeds better and also i've seen some videos about bodyswap they are doing great but sometimes my bodyswap does not work i have to do 3 or maybe 5 attacks to actually jump. i was guessing maybe it is because of my attack speed. it doesn't teleport one in every 2 attacks. ( earth+bodyswap / earth+vd in order ) so if there are no corpse i teleport at the third attack if i'M not wrong. if there is corpse i should travel at the first attack right? i was wondering if i could also solve this problem going VD - BS - Conc Effect. ( instead of BS-VD-CE )

thanks for your time again. i really hope to hit 92+ ( i'm almost 91 yay ) which 92 is my highest character ever ^^

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Chebudeeh wrote:

much appreciated for your time to answer all my questions and checking my PoB? i guess :D

Yeah, I checked everything with PoB.

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-i was going to ask about my attack speed. with %3 %4 attack speeds from tree it doesn't increase much. so thanks for noticing poet pens & making me realize quality frenzy. because it sits at 10lv i totally forgot about it.
-well my fully buffed dmg looks allright with full single target dps but i still don't understand how numbers can be so different from you to me ( ss with 1 link only on guide )

The difference in damage comes from all the factors I've already discussed. Gems' level, good rolls on jewels, having 2 additional jewels (1 in the Shroud and boots with 2 sockets) and that's pretty much it.

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- high dmg roll jewels looks really expensive so after i checked your jewels i thought maybe going for 1dmg mod + crit multi/chance could be easier and cheaper. i'm not so sure how that will affect my dmg tho. gotta do some testings.and i see you instead using 2dmg+hp+resistance you solved your res problem with %10 to all res+hp jewels. so i can have some space for 3dmg mod jewels that would be great.

Yeah, at this point in the league good jewels are way more rare and expensive. I bought them the first month, when there were way more people playing and the supply was massive, so I understand that's not an easy task.
A good roll of crit multi gives a bit more damage than a good roll of flat damage, but usually they are more expensive. Moreover you can obtain jewels with 2+ flat damage mods, while only 1 cri multi mod (there's also the crit multi if killed recently, but that doesn't really work in real single target fights, when you actually need it).
Keep in mind that I have some jewels that offer no direct damage, but they are NOT hypnotic jewels. This means that even though I sacrifice the damage mods on those jewels, I still get a 10% increase damage from the boots.

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- what do you think of 1socketed lightpoacher with the enchant. that looks affordable.

If you can afford it, definitely go for it. As I said, the enchant is a 33% more damage. You will never find a jewel giving you that much damage, not even close. That's like having another support gem on VD.

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- while i'll upgrade my diamond ring , have you considered opal rings ( whites are only 10c right now ) with essence crafted fire damage maybe ?

Yeah I've considered them, from a pure damage point of view they can offer a bit more damage than the Diamond ring. But they are more rare and expensive if you wanna buy good ones. Moreover I kinda like having more crit chance, it allow a smoother gameplay even if they are not the best option damage-wise. Obviously you can try to craft them yourself, but I never really bothered too much.

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- arcane surge increases dmg i see that but i like to do dmg and move with body swap when i'm in combat, but when i travel i like warp better. it speeds better and also i've seen some videos about bodyswap they are doing great but sometimes my bodyswap does not work i have to do 3 or maybe 5 attacks to actually jump. i was guessing maybe it is because of my attack speed. it doesn't teleport one in every 2 attacks. ( earth+bodyswap / earth+vd in order ) so if there are no corpse i teleport at the third attack if i'M not wrong. if there is corpse i should travel at the first attack right? i was wondering if i could also solve this problem going VD - BS - Conc Effect. ( instead of BS-VD-CE )

Yeah I know lightning warp is very smooth to move around, I was just suggesting a way to increase your damage further (I actually just use it in single target fights). If you are not having damage problems, then keep the warp.
I've also noticed that sometimes BS "bugs", it seems more a desync problem in my opinion, that happends more often in indoor maps. I believe in the Carcass map video it happens few times. Usually I just stop attacking and move manually few steps to solve it.
The order of those skills is mostly personal preference. I prefer skipping the BS (if I really need to reposition myself I can just dash away) than the VD cast, so I socket VD in the second slot to make sure it always has corpses available.

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thanks for your time again. i really hope to hit 92+ ( i'm almost 91 yay ) which 92 is my highest character ever ^^

Good luck!

hey, gonna start this build now since i got the currency to run it finally.

could any of u tell me your endgame experience with this? like guardians/shaper and uberlab. is it smooth or still hard when u dont know exactly what u r doing?

im really looking forward to trying the poet pens and voltaile skill. thx for the guide

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doChl wrote:

hey, gonna start this build now since i got the currency to run it finally.

could any of u tell me your endgame experience with this? like guardians/shaper and uberlab. is it smooth or still hard when u dont know exactly what u r doing?

im really looking forward to trying the poet pens and voltaile skill. thx for the guide

I can tell you my experience, but I hope that other players can give theirs too.
You can watch the video with the Guardians+Shaper montage, those were literally my first attempts with this character and you can see they are not super smooth but very doable.
If you watch the following Guardians' runs they are way smoother, same goes for Breachlords and other contents.
Uber Lab is a complete joke. I mean, this build is not made for farming that content all day long, since there are way better builds for that purpose, but you can easily run it. I think I completed it at level 70 or 71 with very mediocre gear. Izaro just dies as soon as it spawns, the only way to die is messing up with traps, but that is a "problem" for 95% of builds in the game (except for characters with crazy regen or overleech).

P.S. If you just scroll through random comments in the thread, you can see many people reporting having great success with this build.

thx for the fast reply. just saw how crazy expansive all thoose abyss socket gear are ;D guess i gotta go with the 1 sockets^^

while looking for a lvling guide i found this build variation

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2070606

if u got some time to spare could u help me decide? what are your thoughts on this? sadly im kinda new to the game and cant spot the differences regarding advantages/disadvantages

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doChl wrote:

thx for the fast reply. just saw how crazy expansive all thoose abyss socket gear are ;D guess i gotta go with the 1 sockets^^

while looking for a lvling guide i found this build variation

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2070606

if u got some time to spare could u help me decide? what are your thoughts on this? sadly im kinda new to the game and cant spot the differences regarding advantages/disadvantages

I'm gonna give you my personal opinion, which may be biased or not 100% shared by everyone, so take it with a gran of salt.
Generally speaking, the big pro of going low life is to use many auras and being able to use Pain Attunement. This build can for sure make great use of that 30% more damage (that's way the damage against normal monsters is higher than my version), but doesn't really benefit much from many auras.
Having 2 purities is ok, nice, but doesn't really change the gameplay or anything at all and doesn't make you that much tankier.
Keep in mind that, even though his damage against normal monsters is higher than mine, it falls off against bosses quite hard (he loses something like 40% of damage against shaper, which is massive in my opinion, my build loses like 5% and most similar build don't go beyond a 10% loss).
The guy is also using a Scion version, which I personally tested myself (going life-based though), you can actually see in my characters that I have a high level scion called PoetNaeH (which is now a support, but at first it was precisely that character). Honestly, having a bit more crit chance from Assassin is nice, having a bit smoother leech from Slayer is nice.. But they don't come even close to the power and the utility offered by an Inquisitor. There's just no comparison whatsoever.
Another big problem of going as an ES based character is that you are 100% reliant on leech to sustain yourself, while going a life based option you can exploit the consacrated ground. Is it gamechanging? Maybe not, but if I find a trial in a map I want to be able to do it, if I want to farm Uber lab for few runs, I want to be able to do. Being a LL character really hurts this options in my opinion.
Keep in mind that his version is probably cheaper than mine, moreover 'cause at this point in the league jewels and abyssal unique are pretty expensive, while ES gear is a bit out of flavour.
Anyway, if I would really want to play on a low budget, I would still use a life-based option with inquisitor (like the one I linked at the end of my guide, in the "similar guides" spoiler).

just reached lvl 18 and seeing where this is going, love it :D

any good unique amulet for this build u would recommend?

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doChl wrote:

just reached lvl 18 and seeing where this is going, love it :D

any good unique amulet for this build u would recommend?

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A good unique option for the amulet is Ngamahu Tiki, which can roll up to 70% increased fire damage. It's a "cheap" option if you want to increase your damage and do not really care about leech, or you have other ways to get it (special thanks to "ptoop84" for bringing this up).

hi, since i cant afford the abyss chest gear im using belly of the beast with 5 link since its really cheap, i saw other vd builds using kaoms for chest would that work for this build? i think it offers more life and dmg (i dont know how much though) and use frenzy just unlinked or drop my 3 link in boots(flame dash-AS-inc. dur) and maybe go for frenzy-inc crit-PCoC what do u think?

Hey, just wanted to thank you for the great work with that build!
Tons of fun :)!
Just wanted to ask because I'm trying to get a culling strike pen wether its important that your offhand sockets are blue-green-blue (bodyswap on 1st place) or may i put a green blue blue aswell there (volatile dead-bodyswap-conc] ?
Just nobody selling a blue-green-blue one with culling on it right now :)