Donald Trump and US politics

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Kamchatka wrote:

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Jennik wrote:

Tyranny of the majority bad! Tyranny of the minority good!

Anyone who brings up the phrase "tyranny of the majority" in the context of the electoral college is demonstrating a shameful lack of critical thinking and reasoning skills. If you believe the choice of the majority being selected is a problem because they're only a subset of the population, how could allowing an even smaller subset of the population to make the choice possibly be better? All you're doing is representing even fewer people.

SO the USA should eliminate the senate, because 2 senators per state is not fair, eliminate the house, because gerrymandering is not fair, and just have a dictator President chosen by 51% popular vote?

It is not our fault you do not understand history, do not understand why this is a bad idea, and do not understand why the legendary founders of the USA set up the government the way they did.

I should make some comment to disparage public schools, but it just seems like a waste of time at this point.

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Jennik wrote:

Kamchatka, while you clearly failed to understand the comment you replied to, I'll still reply to what you said in response. Note that not everything I'm saying here is relevant to what you said. Some of what I mention are simply common right-wing positions that you may not necessarily hold.

Our senate is garbage. Giving the same representation to 600,000 people that you give to 40 million people is absolutely fucking insane. There's no rational argument to be made in defense of this. The horrifically awful defenses usually rely on the false notion that smaller states will be ignored without this. Again, though, a simple look at the situation flipped around shows that this doesn't fix that vastly overstated problem. It only makes it so that instead of the needs of 600,000 people being underrepresented, the needs of 40 million people are underrepresented.

Congress is also fundamentally flawed. It was designed to be representative of the population, but that hasn't been true in ages. It's simply another unfair and nonrepresentational aspect of our horribly unfair and nonrepresentational government now. Your misplaced worship of the founding fathers aside, Congress is a system that was outgrown many millions of Americans ago.

Our government is horribly flawed. Almost nothing about it is fair. As I'm not a nutfuck wacko who deifies a small number of dead white guys and idolizes some old parchment, I say we should fix the problems instead of delusionally believing they don't exist. My preferred government would be representational. Practically nothing about our current government is representational.

Go look at the percentage of people who voted for Democrats for the presidency, congress, and the senate, then look at the actual representation of Democrats. The majority of votes for the Senate and the Presidency went to Democrats, yet Republicans control them. Republicans received slightly more votes for Congress, but are represented at a much higher percentage. That's beyond absurd.

One of the biggest failings of right-wingers is the inability to see issues from the other side (that pesky lack of empathy that's a hallmark of conservatives again), but try really, really hard to imagine this happening to Republicans. It would still be monstrously unfair, but in that case, and this is really, really important, instead of just me being against it, we'd both be against it. We both know it's true, no need to lie.

I value fairness and equality above all else. That's the backbone of my core beliefs. Of fucking course I'm going to hate unfair and unequal systems. You're monstrously selfish. You clearly don't highly value fairness and equality. Of fucking course you don't care how ridiculously unfair systems are when you're personally benefiting from them.

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Cause i got news for you, the gov't the founders created is not going away anytime soon, if ever.

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Jennik wrote:

If 100 people live in an apartment complex while 80 other people live in homes spread out over a hundred miles, should the voices of the people in the apartment complex be silenced?

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Xavderion wrote:

When you want to be a feminist spearhead but you go full "she's a Republican and a slut so who cares?" because you suffer from TDS:

http://archive.is/zrdg1

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DalaiLama wrote:

Franken was quoted saying:

"'I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then when Lesley is passed out, I take her to the closet and rape her.'

‘That’s why you never see Lesley until February.

‘When she passes out. I put her in various positions and take pictures of her,’”

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The [New York Magazine] article, along with a 2000 Playboy column in which Franken talked about fantasizing a machine would perform oral sex on him, was used to attack Franken during his 2008 Senate campaign in Minnesota. Republican women also gathered to demand Franken explain himself, according to the Pioneer Press.

Franken eventually apologized for his crude remarks, but he later wrote in his book, “Al Franken: Giant of the Senate,” that he faked the apology to get the necessary support for his election win, according to the New York Times.

“To say I was sorry for writing a joke was to sell out my career, to sell out who I’d been my entire life,” he wrote in the book. “And I wasn’t sorry that I had written Porn-o-Rama or pitched that stupid Lesley Stahl joke at 2 in the morning. I was just doing my job.”

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The first thing I want to do is apologize: to Leeann, to everyone else who was part of that tour, to everyone who has worked for me, to everyone I represent, and to everyone who counts on me to be an ally and supporter and champion of women. There's more I want to say, but the first and most important thing—and if it's the only thing you care to hear, that's fine—is: I'm sorry.