Donald Trump and US politics

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"We are not winning in Afghanistan right now. And we will correct this as soon as possible." Mattis said the Taliban were "surging" at the moment, something he said he intended to address.

Facepalm. You won't be winning shit, unless you are willing to subjugate a country WW2 style and kill everyone that opposes you. The Taliban will continue surging and disappearing into the population, depends on your personnel numebrs.

It's a complete and utter waste of money and soldier lives. There is nothing of value in Afganistan, lol, should pack the bags and pull out all personnel. Let the Taliban have it, who cares. If Afganis had enough will they'd defeat the Taliban themselves - it means they don't have the will and aren't ready yet to move on from tribal theocracy. NATO has been training them for 15 years, yet they still can't defend major cities from ragtag determined islamists. What does that tell you?
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morbo wrote:
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"We are not winning in Afghanistan right now. And we will correct this as soon as possible." Mattis said the Taliban were "surging" at the moment, something he said he intended to address.

Facepalm. You won't be winning shit, unless you are willing to subjugate a country WW2 style and kill everyone that opposes you. The Taliban will continue surging and disappearing into the population, depends on your personnel numebrs.

It's a complete and utter waste of money and soldier lives. There is nothing of value in Afganistan, lol, should pack the bags and pull out all personnel. Let the Taliban have it, who cares. If Afganis had enough will they'd defeat the Taliban themselves - it means they don't have the will and aren't ready yet to move on from tribal theocracy. NATO has been training them for 15 years, yet they still can't defend major cities from ragtag determined islamists. What does that tell you?


Yes and keep in mind they only have Korean war era weapons and are kicking our ass. Imagine if Russia equipped them with Iglas like CIA equipped jihadis w/ stingers.
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Yes and keep in mind they only have Korean war era weapons and are kicking our ass. Imagine if Russia equipped them with Iglas like CIA equipped jihadis w/ stingers.

It's a war of attrition and the Taliban have all the time in the universe to plan ambushes, place IEDs, do guerilla raids and wait... They are not in a hurry and their "operational costs" are almost non-existent. The amount of willing fighters for jihad is almost endless too.

I'm sure that the army knows that staying there is BS, but US is stuck in politically. If Trump (or anyone else for that matter) pulled out, he'd be attacked by both neocons and neolibs for "handing the country over to the Taliban". Even tho everybody knows the mission is BS, has no purpose and cant be "won", they still need to pretend otherwise.

Trump will be blamed and attacked no matter what he does: pulls out, sends reinforcements, nukes it... so maybe he's just washing his hands, let the generals do the generaling and take the eventual blame.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi51kkMepn0


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I'm surprised this hasn't been posted:

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Republican House Whip Steve Scalise, congressional staffer shot in Virginia shooting


http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/alexandria-virginia-shooting/index.html

There's plenty more information, including about the shooter and his motives, but I'll let somebody else deal with that. =-[.]-=
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Berni activist being radicalised by left-wing hate media, goes on a political terror shooting? Sounds like ISIS, just with more Marx.
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morbo wrote:
Berni activist being radicalised by left-wing hate media, goes on a political terror shooting? Sounds like ISIS, just with more Marx.


Part and parcel of day to day life in a big city, yeah? ='[.]'=
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morbo wrote:
Berni activist being radicalised by left-wing hate media, goes on a political terror shooting? Sounds like ISIS, just with more Marx.


Haha actually in ISIS everything belong to the caliphate so ISIS with gays allowed.

No independent thought. No private property. No financial or personnel freedom is exactly what socialists have in mind just like ISIS.
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Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jun 14, 2017, 1:33:23 PM
My representative was there with his 10 year old son who got to witness this. Good times! GRRR

I blame this on the liberal media, I'm sorry. Inciting violence when they know there are crazies and weak minded people out there!
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Aim_Deep wrote:
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morbo wrote:
Berni activist being radicalised by left-wing hate media, goes on a political terror shooting? Sounds like ISIS, just with more Marx.


Haha actually in ISIS everything belong to the caliphate so ISIS with gays allowed.

No independent thought. No financial or personnel freedom is exactly what socialists have in mind just like ISIS.


Since when did you guys go from anti liberals to anti socialist? Lol.

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