[2.5] Essence Drain Build Options (HC Uber Atziri/Shaper Viable)

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niratschi wrote:
I made a little spreadsheet for leveling the ED build. I'll post it here, maybe it helps someone.



(I want to play SC, hence the Flame Golem. Switch that to chaos/stone for HC)


bless you
Thanks a lot for the spreadsheet niratschi.
I plan to use this guide as a baseline for Breach. Excited, nice videos. Here is my plan:

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5 - Change from Life to CI
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6 - Max I planned for @ 96
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niratschi wrote:
I made a little spreadsheet for leveling the ED build. I'll post it here, maybe it helps someone.


very appreciated, first time playing as ED so this comes in handy, thanks
Hello, I have some questions need to ask for your advise and feedback if it's okay with you. Currently I'm in level 66 with very limited gears and I don't have all the gems that you suggested for the Essence Drain build. Since from the beginning, I've been combining your "leveling passive Tree" with the "Chaos Inoculation tree" build which was created from Itvoji and was mentioned in your first post.

My first question is:
How does "Chaos Inoculation" work? Yesterday I unlock this skill in my tree, went to Dried Lake and I was instantly dead with that "1" life. I had to use a refund point to take it off and brought my life back to normal.
My second question is kinda related to my previous question. People have been running with Low Life build. Is it due to the fact that with certain gears/gems equipped, it'll increase the drop chance of an unique item? Meaning that it's a farming build. Otherwise, I really can't think of other reasons to run a LF build.
Third: Since you've suggested to run CI with LF for late game, do you think it would be a good idea for me to reset my entire passive tree? Here's my tree and by best set up right now:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCALDYotk8tvmkyBTaO3DU9W9Mg2qMdIEWv7TRyAx2grVIbWzrY-d0ES8DHtsa6NYrCh9BEHsFtV3yvjrC7A5IKlu3MBGWefboWgcef8ZDNiaIlS6TJyepUuzw1WwLvorviI_6SVEi9KEv-TfsGFxAbRnXz3C7LL9ObYfLEVDZW5f0SbEV16XEp5s1uRslUlOGrpwydZ6nK0uul5U9X1ZjzxXpAkyzRX7QHw5c7-tq-jsNEQ-smPfXdFWESJuhUq9fKlxrGGqPRq1Kw214L6cIHRRn_Hzlna760lgHGmwXL_fBZOdV1oCk


Now that we have a chance to reset our entire passive tree due to the event. I would like to know that if I should grab this chance to run the dangerous CI and LF build with my current low tier gears? I'm working on leveling all the gems I have now and hope they'll get to max 20, which shouldn't be a problem.

I am sorry for taking your time reading my long post and boring questions. If you're busy or don't feel like to answer my post, that's cool. I still really appreciate your Essence sharing build and all your time.
Last edited by MagPortal#5455 on Dec 3, 2016, 3:14:11 AM
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MagPortal wrote:
Hello, I have some questions need to ask for your advise and feedback if it's okay with you. Currently I'm in level 66 with very limited gears and I don't have all the gems that you suggested for the Essence Drain build. Since from the beginning, I've been combining your "leveling passive Tree" with the "Chaos Inoculation tree" build which was created from Itvoji and was mentioned in your first post.

My first question is:
How does "Chaos Inoculation" work? Yesterday I unlock this skill in my tree, went to Dried Lake and I was instantly dead with that "1" life. I had to use a refund point to take it off and brought my life back to normal.
My second question is kinda related to my previous question. People have been running with Low Life build. Is it due to the fact that with certain gears/gems equipped, it'll increase the drop chance of an unique item? Meaning that it's a farming build. Otherwise, I really can't think of other reasons to run a LF build.
Third: Since you've suggested to run CI with LF for late game, do you think it would be a good idea for me to reset my entire passive tree? Here's my tree and by best set up right now:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCALDYotk8tvmkyBTaO3DU9W9Mg2qMdIEWv7TRyAx2grVIbWzrY-d0ES8DHtsa6NYrCh9BEHsFtV3yvjrC7A5IKlu3MBGWefboWgcef8ZDNiaIlS6TJyepUuzw1WwLvorviI_6SVEi9KEv-TfsGFxAbRnXz3C7LL9ObYfLEVDZW5f0SbEV16XEp5s1uRslUlOGrpwydZ6nK0uul5U9X1ZjzxXpAkyzRX7QHw5c7-tq-jsNEQ-smPfXdFWESJuhUq9fKlxrGGqPRq1Kw214L6cIHRRn_Hzlna760lgHGmwXL_fBZOdV1oCk


Now that we have a chance to reset our entire passive tree due to the event. I would like to know that if I should grab this chance to run the dangerous CI and LF build with my current low tier gears? I'm working on leveling all the gems I have now and hope they'll get to max 20, which shouldn't be a problem.

I am sorry for taking your time reading my long post and boring questions. If you're busy or don't feel like to answer my post, that's cool. I still really appreciate your Essence sharing build and all your time.


Hey man, just a few answers regarding CI and LL(LowLife):

CI and LowLife is realy gear dependend, you should do the Life based build and get some experience.

For CI you need a lot of Energy shield(ES) notes in the passive tree and a lot of ES on gear (400+ on body armour, 300+ shield, 200+helmet...).
If you level with Life nodes, you need to respec your whole tree for CI: Respec all life nodes and spec ES nodes.

Reason why ppl run CI:
When you have a lot of Nodes and ES on Gear you can easily achieve over 10 000 ES, which prevents a lot of one shots. Also you are imun to Chaos Damage.

Low Life:
For Low Life you need a Shavronnes Wraping body Armour. For a new player this is realy expensive and not a good starter build. (It takes even for more experienced players some time to have that much currency)

Reason why ppl run LL:
With Low Life you have a high ES Pool as well, but more than 1 Life. The only reason running low life is, that you can reserve auras with your LifePool (With Aura+Bloodmagic). This way you can have Auras with Mana Reservation + Auras with Life reservation. Your Effective HP is Your ES.

(Reason why LL doesnt work without Shavronnes is that chaos damage surpasses the ES and does dmg to your Life pool. So if you have 10 000 ES and 2000 Life, where 1800 is reserved by Auras, so you have 200 effectiv life left, you get oneshot by every chaos damage dealing mob. Shavronnes Wrapping makes you imun to chaos dmg, so all dmg is taken from ES)
at what point do i stop leveling cwdt, ic and flame golem?
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honerpro wrote:
at what point do i stop leveling cwdt, ic and flame golem?


depends how much your total health pool is etc. Peronsally I pushed my cwdt to level 20 but I had a large health pool for it. You want it to activate often so you have high golem uptime. Try what works for you and remember that you can always scour + gem to lower its level
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ProjectPT wrote:
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honerpro wrote:
at what point do i stop leveling cwdt, ic and flame golem?


depends how much your total health pool is etc. Peronsally I pushed my cwdt to level 20 but I had a large health pool for it. You want it to activate often so you have high golem uptime. Try what works for you and remember that you can always scour + gem to lower its level


oh so it's based on that, right. thanks for the help, and guide. cheers
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Hey man, just a few answers regarding CI and LL(LowLife):

CI and LowLife is realy gear dependend, you should do the Life based build and get some experience.

For CI you need a lot of Energy shield(ES) notes in the passive tree and a lot of ES on gear (400+ on body armour, 300+ shield, 200+helmet...).
If you level with Life nodes, you need to respec your whole tree for CI: Respec all life nodes and spec ES nodes.

Reason why ppl run CI:
When you have a lot of Nodes and ES on Gear you can easily achieve over 10 000 ES, which prevents a lot of one shots. Also you are imun to Chaos Damage.

Low Life:
For Low Life you need a Shavronnes Wraping body Armour. For a new player this is realy expensive and not a good starter build. (It takes even for more experienced players some time to have that much currency)

Reason why ppl run LL:
With Low Life you have a high ES Pool as well, but more than 1 Life. The only reason running low life is, that you can reserve auras with your LifePool (With Aura+Bloodmagic). This way you can have Auras with Mana Reservation + Auras with Life reservation. Your Effective HP is Your ES.

(Reason why LL doesnt work without Shavronnes is that chaos damage surpasses the ES and does dmg to your Life pool. So if you have 10 000 ES and 2000 Life, where 1800 is reserved by Auras, so you have 200 effectiv life left, you get oneshot by every chaos damage dealing mob. Shavronnes Wrapping makes you imun to chaos dmg, so all dmg is taken from ES)
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Thank you so much for all these information, Niratschi. From what you have explained, I'll put LL on aside from now until I get more essential gears and experienced in the game.

However, what would you suggest people who like me as a beginner, choose which one of the elements from Life, ES or DMG on our passive tree based on your Essence Drain build? From my first character as a casting witch, I could hardly progress over level 73 in Merciless (my character died a lot and couldn't do any dmg at that point). Hence, I'm trying to avoid that in my Shadow class. I've been having fun with this Essence Drain although I'm not sure by the time I get into Merciless, if the same thing would happen again. (My goal is set to being able to survive and farm unique items from crafting maps in Act3, Merciless).

Once again, thank you so much for getting me back and with all the helps. It took me a day to think about whether to post here or sent you a pm because I don't want to waste more spaces in your thread.
Last edited by MagPortal#5455 on Dec 4, 2016, 6:41:21 AM

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