[2.6][Assassin] TheAmigoReach! Reach of the Council Insane Poison DPS! -UBER/TWINNED CORE DOWN

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gfurm wrote:
I've been following the guide for a few days since I've dropped Reach from pale court and everything is great. But my DPS is lower than anyone here. With 3 frenzy, 4 power charges, and blood rage it's about 21K.

With deadly infusion increase it significantly? I haven't done Uber Lab yet.

My tree and gear

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAABeAx4FLQW1B5kILgiJDY0QkhEvFr8Zjh9BIXYj0yP2JpUqCypbKwowfDH6MgEyMjY9OdRDMUM2R35KfUyOTP9Nkk4qUUdS7FVLWfBbr13yYeJirGVNaoxsCGyMcFJ07XXLdf1293n2eu99dX8rhG-EoobOh3aJ04rwjDaNfY1-jb-PYJUFmvGbJp2qoJ-i2aOKsKuw2LIZtMW1SLe2vTa-p8EzwuzEgsgUz3rTftQj2sHb5-Of6NbpRupi6xTrY-2D7g7vevVv_MX-ug==?accountName=gfurm&characterName=Grzesiu_V



There is something wrong then, i'm at lv81 with 28k tooltip completely unbuffed and no charges
Btw amigo, i see that you went for vaal pact and a lot more life leech nodes, it looks very good, any difference between taking vaal pact and not taking it?

edit: nvm didn't see the red text :P
Last edited by Micco10#3978 on Jul 4, 2016, 6:35:45 PM
Hey, Amigo,
I optimized your new Vaal Pact tree, saving you 3 passive points. Cheers!

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAABeAx4FLQW1BnAHmQguDY0QkhEvFHUWvxjbGYoZjh9BIXYi6iPTI_Yk_SaVKaUqOCpbLiMuUzB8MfoyATIyNj031DnUQzFDNkd-Sn1Mjkz_TZJOKk6fUUdS7FVLVvpZ8FuvYeJh62KsZU1noGqMbIxvJ3BSdO108XXLdf12gnb3d9d59npTen967311fyuEb4SihMWGzod2idOMNo19jX6Nv49gk5mXBppqmyabtZ2qoJ-i2bDYshm0xbTRtUi3trueu-O8b702vqfBM8LswzrEosgMyBTPetNv037ZhtrB45_nVOjW6mLrY-0_7YP1b_66_94=

Edit: What are your thoughts on using Kaom's Heart + Snakebite?

I ask this because those "Vulnerability on Hit" gloves are +6 exalteds price.
And with Snakebite (and full frenzy charges) our initial hits will always poison, which doesn't always happen with "Curse on Hit gloves" (enemies get poisoned only after they are cursed). And Kaom's makes us really tankier.

Anyway, thanks for sharing this build!
Last edited by KaioNS#1125 on Jul 4, 2016, 7:13:30 PM
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Micco10 wrote:
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gfurm wrote:
I've been following the guide for a few days since I've dropped Reach from pale court and everything is great. But my DPS is lower than anyone here. With 3 frenzy, 4 power charges, and blood rage it's about 21K.

With deadly infusion increase it significantly? I haven't done Uber Lab yet.

My tree and gear

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAABeAx4FLQW1B5kILgiJDY0QkhEvFr8Zjh9BIXYj0yP2JpUqCypbKwowfDH6MgEyMjY9OdRDMUM2R35KfUyOTP9Nkk4qUUdS7FVLWfBbr13yYeJirGVNaoxsCGyMcFJ07XXLdf1293n2eu99dX8rhG-EoobOh3aJ04rwjDaNfY1-jb-PYJUFmvGbJp2qoJ-i2aOKsKuw2LIZtMW1SLe2vTa-p8EzwuzEgsgUz3rTftQj2sHb5-Of6NbpRupi6xTrY-2D7g7vevVv_MX-ug==?accountName=gfurm&characterName=Grzesiu_V



There is something wrong then, i'm at lv81 with 28k tooltip completely unbuffed and no charges




Mind sharing your gear and tree? im at level 81 and im at 11k unbuffed and 20.5k buffed with 3 frenzy 4 power




tree

http://poedb.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAQBeAx4FLQW1BnAILgiJDY0RLxR1Fr8Y2xmOH0EhdiPTI_YmlSmlKgsqWy4jMHwx-jY9OdRDMUd-Sn1M_02STipOn1FHUuxTu1VLW69daGHiYqxlTWqMbIxvJ3BSdO108XXLdf1293p_eu99dX8rgl6Eb4TZhs6HdonTivCMNo19jX6Nv49gk5mVBZpqmvGdqqCfotmjirCrsNi0xbVIu569Nr6nv9XBM8LsxILIFMqpzZjTftRC2sHjn-lG6mLrY-2D7g7vevVv_MX-ug==


EDIT: After looking around i guess the combination of have a 5L vs a 6L and less crit multi would all up substantially. just putting on a pair of facebreakers took me from 20k buffed to 25k. id imagine either 120% multi or 29% more multipler from slower proj in a 6th link would be 30k+ and getting the last crit chance on tree would take me to 35k
Last edited by Kwanzaa246#4746 on Jul 5, 2016, 3:08:53 AM
Hey there,
finally found some time to check out your guide sir.
Nice one.

I played arround with some auras and stuff, AOE of TS was the most annoying part for me. The clearspeed is just not as iam used to with other bow builds/Primary attack skills.

So i went away from Grace, using Arctic armour and Herald of Ash (havn't tested Ash against others but i personally think Ash is maybe the best clearspeed benefit for a physical based build with a nice Overkill ignite at huge packs)

Did not test vaalpact, got myself a pair of Acuity for switching them in if needed (mostly against atziri only). Reflect (randomly) in maps isn't much of a Problem (solo playing), it's just annyoing against atziri.
It is more the way how u set up your TS, i usually shot in very front of me if iam lacking of Vision. Result is simple, reflect wont get hit by the Primary shots and i barly get much damage reflected, chaos and poison does the rest. If i have Vision against a reflecter i usually take Barrage vs them, AA reduces the reflected damage to almost nothing. (make sure u dont move while hitting reflect)

Cruel bandits i decided against attackspeed, either physical damage or rather taking a skillpoint there.


I also took some more nodeables in the tree, which u left: (no Vaalpact)
- Coldhearted Calculation
- Master of the Arena
- Primal Spirit

They are mostly giving you QoL, 40str, 40int, 40%mana regen, 20%inc flaskcharges gained, 1%Life Regen and 12%attackdamage (2+2+1 Points in total). Especially the stats you get are helping you to be more stat undependent on your gear. Vaalpact has no deregen anymore. A Bigger Mana pool, adn slightly more flask charges against (good since we 1shot anyway and wont benefit that much from 20% charges gained on dealing a crit).

So in the end iam using a different Aura Setup (designed for my lazy playstyle):
Blasphemy + Temp chains (Default)/Enfeeble/Assasines Mark
Arctic Armour
Herald of Ash

6L TS (4G2B)
6L Barrage (4G2B)
("Attackskill" | PPAD | Slow.Projs | Pierce | Inc.Crit.Strikes | Inc.Crit.Dmg)

Lightning Golem atm (up to lvl 92-95) after that i might Switch to Ice Golem again for that additional accuracy (depends if i can get more accu on gear), Maybe will also end up using Fire Golem or even Chaos, everything is possible here.

I also recommend having flat lightning damage on a gearpiece, just to apply a shock stack for extra damage into poison (works insanly well using Barrage)

~Doe

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Last edited by Doe#2466 on Jul 5, 2016, 4:04:03 AM
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Xinerub2 wrote:
What do you think about using Kaom's Heart?


That could also work, but you would have to get another way of getting poison, for example snakebite gloves :)
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KaioNS wrote:
Hey, Amigo,
I optimized your new Vaal Pact tree, saving you 3 passive points. Cheers!

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAABeAx4FLQW1BnAHmQguDY0QkhEvFHUWvxjbGYoZjh9BIXYi6iPTI_Yk_SaVKaUqOCpbLiMuUzB8MfoyATIyNj031DnUQzFDNkd-Sn1Mjkz_TZJOKk6fUUdS7FVLVvpZ8FuvYeJh62KsZU1noGqMbIxvJ3BSdO108XXLdf12gnb3d9d59npTen967311fyuEb4SihMWGzod2idOMNo19jX6Nv49gk5mXBppqmyabtZ2qoJ-i2bDYshm0xbTRtUi3trueu-O8b702vqfBM8LswzrEosgMyBTPetNv037ZhtrB45_nVOjW6mLrY-0_7YP1b_66_94=

Edit: What are your thoughts on using Kaom's Heart + Snakebite?

I ask this because those "Vulnerability on Hit" gloves are +6 exalteds price.
And with Snakebite (and full frenzy charges) our initial hits will always poison, which doesn't always happen with "Curse on Hit gloves" (enemies get poisoned only after they are cursed). And Kaom's makes us really tankier.

Anyway, thanks for sharing this build!


Thanks for the optimisation! :D

and kaoms + snakebite could work for sure! will add it to the guide
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好的男 wrote:
Hey there,
finally found some time to check out your guide sir.
Nice one.

I played arround with some auras and stuff, AOE of TS was the most annoying part for me. The clearspeed is just not as iam used to with other bow builds/Primary attack skills.

So i went away from Grace, using Arctic armour and Herald of Ash (havn't tested Ash against others but i personally think Ash is maybe the best clearspeed benefit for a physical based build with a nice Overkill ignite at huge packs)

Did not test vaalpact, got myself a pair of Acuity for switching them in if needed (mostly against atziri only). Reflect (randomly) in maps isn't much of a Problem (solo playing), it's just annyoing against atziri.
It is more the way how u set up your TS, i usually shot in very front of me if iam lacking of Vision. Result is simple, reflect wont get hit by the Primary shots and i barly get much damage reflected, chaos and poison does the rest. If i have Vision against a reflecter i usually take Barrage vs them, AA reduces the reflected damage to almost nothing. (make sure u dont move while hitting reflect)

Cruel bandits i decided against attackspeed, either physical damage or rather taking a skillpoint there.


I also took some more nodeables in the tree, which u left: (no Vaalpact)
- Coldhearted Calculation
- Master of the Arena
- Primal Spirit

They are mostly giving you QoL, 40str, 40int, 40%mana regen, 20%inc flaskcharges gained, 1%Life Regen and 12%attackdamage (2+2+1 Points in total). Especially the stats you get are helping you to be more stat undependent on your gear. Vaalpact has no deregen anymore. A Bigger Mana pool, adn slightly more flask charges against (good since we 1shot anyway and wont benefit that much from 20% charges gained on dealing a crit).

So in the end iam using a different Aura Setup (designed for my lazy playstyle):
Blasphemy + Temp chains (Default)/Enfeeble/Assasines Mark
Arctic Armour
Herald of Ash

6L TS (4G2B)
6L Barrage (4G2B)
("Attackskill" | PPAD | Slow.Projs | Pierce | Inc.Crit.Strikes | Inc.Crit.Dmg)

Lightning Golem atm (up to lvl 92-95) after that i might Switch to Ice Golem again for that additional accuracy (depends if i can get more accu on gear), Maybe will also end up using Fire Golem or even Chaos, everything is possible here.

I also recommend having flat lightning damage on a gearpiece, just to apply a shock stack for extra damage into poison (works insanly well using Barrage)

~Doe



Thanks for your response, Doe

-Will keep these things in mind, and also add some of them to the guide (especially that added lightning damage for shock)
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Sure Thing, in the end the build may varry in everybodys playstyle, that atleast my experience from testing things. Like AA + blasphemy Temp chains, running in circles arround izaro, that dude barly can move :D
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So, this is a good build and all, but your "new" tree at the top of the post is rather inefficient. It can be achieved at level 94 by more efficient highway pathing. You can get an entirely new jewel with those extra 3 points (the one in the "increased projectile damage" minicluster, on the right side of the tree), which could even include the 10 int you're missing, if that's really mandatory.

Anyway, having fun leveling, and honestly feeling bad about how overpowered I am in Cruel with 63% crit on a death's opus :) (And I already have my reach, so I'm ready to upgrade as soon as I hit 64!)

The new tree looks like https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAABeAx4FLQW1BnAHmQguDY0QkhEvFHUWvxjbGY4fQSF2Iuoj0yP2JP0mlSmlKjgqWy4jLlMwfDH6MgEyMjY9N9Q51EMxQzZHfkp9TI5M_02STipOn1FHUuxVS1b6WfBbr2HiYetirGVNZ6BqjGyMbydwUnTtdPF1y3X9doJ293n2elN6f3rvfXV_K4RvhKKExYbOh3aJ04w2jX2Nfo2_j2CTmZpqmyabtZ2qoJ-i2bDYshm0xbTRtUi3trueu-O8b702vqfBM8LswzrEosgMyBTPetNv037ZhtrB45_nVOjW6mLrY-0_7YPuDu969W_8xf66_94= without allocating the new jewel slot.
Last edited by codetaku#0468 on Jul 5, 2016, 6:59:29 AM

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