If you can hit over 50% crit as is, why not just run deadly infusion and have cap crit all the time, not just on the initial hit.
Ambush is nice, but it is only going to give the higher crit chance on one hit, where as it would be easy to get 95% crit all the time.
That's the whole point tho. That 1 hit. It'll either 1 shot the packs or bring them low life if it's a tier 14+ blue pack.
I didn't build this around tooltip DPS. I built it around quality of life. Drop a totem and the first hit takes care of everything.
If I wanted DPS, I'd be getting power charges (having to use a secondary skill to slow me down), I'd change the crit gem to faster casting, etc. There's a miriam of ways to build SWT. You can go full ele, hybrid, full phys, non crit, crit, ... I chose this because from playing with it, it does exactly what I want it to on bosses and while clearing a map; The laziest possible playstyle. Hell I even put my golem on CWDT cause I don't wanna be bothered to recast him lol.
You drop a totem, run AT the monsters because they're gonna die or freeze and move on. Pop flasks when needed. There's literally no micro management.
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Yea I see your point, its not the most optimal but since your already just owning everything, whats the point right? I get it, and its just huge Quality of Life not to have to worry about charges, curses, skills. Cool.
Last edited by Paragon1#4769 on May 5, 2016, 2:27:23 PM
If you can hit over 50% crit as is, why not just run deadly infusion and have cap crit all the time, not just on the initial hit.
Ambush is nice, but it is only going to give the higher crit chance on one hit, where as it would be easy to get 95% crit all the time.
That's the whole point tho. That 1 hit. It'll either 1 shot the packs or bring them low life if it's a tier 14+ blue pack.
I didn't build this around tooltip DPS. I built it around quality of life. Drop a totem and the first hit takes care of everything.
If I wanted DPS, I'd be getting power charges (having to use a secondary skill to slow me down), I'd change the crit gem to faster casting, etc. There's a miriam of ways to build SWT. You can go full ele, hybrid, full phys, non crit, crit, ... I chose this because from playing with it, it does exactly what I want it to on bosses and while clearing a map; The laziest possible playstyle. Hell I even put my golem on CWDT cause I don't wanna be bothered to recast him lol.
You drop a totem, run AT the monsters because they're gonna die or freeze and move on. Pop flasks when needed. There's literally no micro management.
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Yea I see your point, its not the most optimal but since your already just owning everything, whats the point right? I get it, and its just huge Quality of Life not to have to worry about charges, curses, skills. Cool.
Exactly yea.
It's kind of like what I was doing with my vaal molten shell build before. When you have enough damage to kill everything almost instantly, the only upgrades you can do are quality of life and survivability. I just wanted to run around and not have to bother with anything other than putting a totem down.
For you guys concerned about the damage, when I first slapped on a mid level SWT gem, I had about 8K dps.
The damage comes from the empower/added fire, the phys to lightning, the hatred aura, the gem levels, the jewels and the crit multiplier. I have cast speed on gear because I wanted to avoid having to use faster casting gem. Obviously cast speed is gonna help DPS a bit but its nowhere near what other things bring.
I'll add a section about the jewels on the main post shortly.
I'd been thinking about running this in the two week starting later. With these dps upgrades in mind, is this a good first league character or does it require too much gear to scale dps? Planning on leveling with self cast bladefall because it's op with even a few phys nodes.
EDIT: was also going to go for a dagger over a wand for whirling blades. Would that lose much dps?
Last edited by Raal131#0680 on May 6, 2016, 5:44:11 AM
For you guys concerned about the damage, when I first slapped on a mid level SWT gem, I had about 8K dps.
The damage comes from the empower/added fire, the phys to lightning, the hatred aura, the gem levels, the jewels and the crit multiplier. I have cast speed on gear because I wanted to avoid having to use faster casting gem. Obviously cast speed is gonna help DPS a bit but its nowhere near what other things bring.
I'll add a section about the jewels on the main post shortly.
I'd been thinking about running this in the two week starting later. With these dps upgrades in mind, is this a good first league character or does it require too much gear to scale dps? Planning on leveling with self cast bladefall because it's op with even a few phys nodes.
EDIT: was also going to go for a dagger over a wand for whirling blades. Would that lose much dps?
Well the delay before the first hit is gonna be longer if you don't have much cast speed.
Everyone's obsession with whirling blades is the primary reason why I stay away from it. If you really wanna use it, in this case you can.
SWT needs gem levels to scale the damage and a healthy amount of crit multi, so yea I'd suggest leveling with bladefall.
Thank you for this great build. It is going great so far in 2 week league. Just got to merciless act 3 and pretty much one shotting white and blue packs with 10k dps with increased aoe gem. Switching increased aoe with conc. effect on bosses. They just get destroyed in seconds. And I believe it will be much better after i get Assassinate node. I only got Ambush atm.
My only problem right now is mana. How much mana/mana regen do we need to sustain SWT? Because of my 600 mana pool, i can't even run hatred + clarity. Because SWT costs around 150 mana.
I am also using dual daggers to get easy %50 critical chance for now. Do you think dual divinarius would be okay choice for more aoe and some damage later on?
I'm playing this build in the 2 week and I'm kind of struggling. I'm in Act 4 Cruel and I'm still using Bladefall because my shockwave totems don't do enough damage and they get 1-shot to top it off. I also feel like the build has no real defenses to speak of. Either I'm really squishy or my gear is really bad, but I'm getting 1-shot repeatedly. Any tips?
I'm playing this build in the 2 week and I'm kind of struggling. I'm in Act 4 Cruel and I'm still using Bladefall because my shockwave totems don't do enough damage and they get 1-shot to top it off. I also feel like the build has no real defenses to speak of. Either I'm really squishy or my gear is really bad, but I'm getting 1-shot repeatedly. Any tips?
I also leveled with bladefall but switched to 4L SWT at around cruel act 3. I made sure i got Ambush and Shaman's Dominion nodes before going SWT. Because with these nodes + dual daggers, you are getting %50+ critical chance easily and you pretty much 1 shot everything after.
You can try buying a dagger like mine to cap critical chance. I bought it for 3 chaoses.
Maybe you can also try to buy a glove like facebreaker to increase critical multiplier.
Edit: Also make sure your gems are highest level possible.
Simplesim will give better answers for sure but these are what i did and didn't get any problems.
Last edited by akinunal1337#5094 on May 8, 2016, 12:29:16 PM
I'm playing this build in the 2 week and I'm kind of struggling. I'm in Act 4 Cruel and I'm still using Bladefall because my shockwave totems don't do enough damage and they get 1-shot to top it off. I also feel like the build has no real defenses to speak of. Either I'm really squishy or my gear is really bad, but I'm getting 1-shot repeatedly. Any tips?
I also leveled with bladefall but switched to 4L SWT at around cruel act 3. I made sure i got Ambush and Shaman's Dominion nodes before going SWT. Because with these nodes + dual daggers, you are getting %50+ critical chance easily and you pretty much 1 shot everything after.
You can try buying a dagger like mine to cap critical chance. I bought it for 3 chaoses.
Maybe you can also try to buy a glove like facebreaker to increase critical multiplier.
Edit: Also make sure your gems are highest level possible.
Simplesim will give better answers for sure but these are what i did and didn't get any problems.
Actually you pretty much nailed it.
This is a build that you transition into rather than level with.
As stated in the original post, this build revolves around the ascendancy points and crit multiplier. Your totems have no survivability because they're supposed to 1 shot packs before they can land a hit.
As for your own survivability, I don't really know what you're talking about. I have 6.6k effective HP with the ES, nothing 1 shots me unless I'm rolling vulnerability + 5 different damage mods on a map and I just sit there tanking stuff. Overall tho, it IS a totem build so there is no real sustain other than your flasks and your own player movement to avoid getting hit. Once things die or freeze instantly tho, it feels a million times smoother.
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Thank you for this great build. It is going great so far in 2 week league. Just got to merciless act 3 and pretty much one shotting white and blue packs with 10k dps with increased aoe gem. Switching increased aoe with conc. effect on bosses. They just get destroyed in seconds. And I believe it will be much better after i get Assassinate node. I only got Ambush atm.
My only problem right now is mana. How much mana/mana regen do we need to sustain SWT? Because of my 600 mana pool, i can't even run hatred + clarity. Because SWT costs around 150 mana.
I am also using dual daggers to get easy %50 critical chance for now. Do you think dual divinarius would be okay choice for more aoe and some damage later on?
Divinarius is fine for a bit, but eventually you do want to get crit multiplier on daggers/wands.
My totems cost me about 179 per cast so I try to have about twice that unreserved. Your mana nodes on tree and mana/mana regen on gear are important here.
I got along using this two daggers I had in my inventory:
I'm sitting at around 25K per totem with subpar gear at level 82 and gems between lvl 18-19. I'm pretty sure that when the gems get to quality and I finish my ascendancy (Izaro one shotted me ;) ), things will start to look like explained in the opening post.
