[2.3] CoC Cyclone Discharge Trickster! HC/Level 100 Viable!
" Get rid of purity of fire imo. The other is up to you. Could be BV. For my current builds, thoughts and videos. youtube.com/andypistone www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Apr 7, 2016, 9:02:50 PM
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Hey Grocery, I would love your input on my gear so far and what I can improve. I am level 70 with 4.6 eg
doing my other two labs right now and so far I am dying a bunch. Thanks in advance! First time trying discharge and it feels and looks cool |
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" Labs should be done as hybrid or you should buy them. Lab is retarded for CI, it is the anti-CI zone, but it is doable. You really need to quality up your gear to get extra ES. Get Steppan Eard or rare boots. You need the 30% MS and better ES. You can get a bit more ES on the shield as well, but again you really should be qualitying it up. Your belt could do with a replacement. Chain belt with ES roll on it and str/duo res. For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC |
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Hey grocery, first of all i would like to THANK YOU a lot for your tornado shot/frenzy build as it allowed me to make my first 50 ex :D. Now, i was considering this build that i wanted to try for so long coc/discharger.
I'm currently playing an occultist (2 curse) witch as coc/discharger too but using a life/es it seems to have much more dps potential than thrickster but at which cost? Since my goal is to do uber atziri with this build maybe core malachai for the record. The problem with the build i'm following is that it cost so much just for it to work at least for the way I wanna play it especially because of chaos res. My build require at least 2x elreon ring + 2x +2mana gained on hit jewel for it to simply work otherwise you're out of mana if you don't use clarity. Then, i need to get capped chaos res/good es/life/other ele res... and with crazy gear you get 3500 hp and 7000 es (10500 effective hp) with 75% chaos res (max). Then, i saw your video you had like 11250 es paired with ur tree nods immune to chaos and no mana cost??? I call it overpowered so i'm going to try it :P Anyway i got a shadow sitting there waiting for respec it was my first try to coc/discharger when i was poor and could'nt even afford a vagan dagger. Now, two things are worrying me with this build: 1. Is it uber atziri/core malachais viable? Wondered because I didn't saw any mention of it. 2. Do we only get life leech from the gem meaning 2% total is that enough for any encounter? This was my biggest concern and that why I decided to go for a witch double curse to be able to get warlord mark with another curse. I also got a suggestion what about getting a link like this instead of cwdt/enfeeble/inc duration/immortal call. That immortal call could take the place of flame dash that i don't understand the need since it does the same thing as whirling blade but with fire damage that could fuk with EE. That would make it immortal call/cwdt/inc duration on shield and BV/cwdt/curse on hit/elemental weakness or enfeeble if required. So, u still keep the bv but making use of it as a curse applier paired with pcharge building and it also allows u to level up the curse to 21/20 with a 10% inc effect from CoH meaning that a lv 21/20 elemental weakness linked that way that would drop the res of monster by an extra 50% over EE so total - 100% res to mobs!!! Thank you for your time and sry for the essay XD Last edited by Natchorx#6474 on Apr 7, 2016, 11:36:18 PM
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" What about dropping both Purities if I'll manage to cap all my resistances? I thought BV helps alot in procing Dischage, are you sure it's better to drop it instead of anything other? I'm not really experienced in COC so that's why I'd like to get good explaintation. Without Volls Devo and without Warlord Mark this build won't wont? I got leech on gem linked to Discharge already, and I'm not sure for what other besides leech I really need it. Thanks again for help! |
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" Purities aren't really needed til later on but reflect sucks without purity of lightning. BV does not proc discharge. It gets you power charges. BV is a spell and therefore does not cast other spells on crit. This build works without volls devo or warlords mark you just wont discharge any endurance charges. For my current builds, thoughts and videos. youtube.com/andypistone www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Apr 8, 2016, 12:07:24 AM
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" 1) I have seen people do Uber with this build and most would list CoC Discharge as an uber viable build. A thread on reddit yesterday listed vanilla CoC Discharge as Uber ready. Core malachai, not sur,e but I assume it is. I have done the two other t15s and it works. It might be a bit sketchy on Malachai but it isn't a Aegis build :) 2) 2% life leech is enough. We do pretty ridiculous damage. 2x Curse is great, without a doubt. I find 2% leech to be enough but more is nice. Flame Dash is to get around objects that whirling does not. You canget yourself into some weird spots that Flame Dash can save you from. I would never Flame Dash into a mob though so it affecting EE would be very, very rare and on a white mob it is inconsequential, they get one shot. You do not have to use it of course, it is one of the links up in the air. I CWDT enfeeble over Ele Weakness because the damage is so ridiculous that a DPS curse is not really necessary. If you have issues with DPS, Ele weakness is legit. There are no real bad options for cursing. If you are dual cursing then you could run any combination of WL, Enfeeble, AM, EW, etc. If you are going to use DPS based gloves just go for Facebreakers. The DPS on them is insane! For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
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That was a quick answer thanks a lot that help clarify so stuff. I was pretty sure facebreaker were now higher dps than maligaroes i did a lot of maths even posted on my current build forum about them being better choice than 50/50 maligaroes for like 100 times cheaper question of time b4 they get nerfed.
After going through all the comparison in terms of stats using http://exilecraft.org/, it turned out that this build is nailing it on all the line except when it comes to crit and losing 1 power charge+ 1 curse but we cant have everything! The biggest gap was in critical chance for spells but that probably because you are using voidbringers. After that considered here was my questions: 1. In which situation would you recommend using voidbringers vs facebreakers? 2. How do you put a mod of 12% attack speed on your boots i saw in your video? 3. Would a +50 es belt corrupted with + 1 endurance charge be better cost effective than headhunter? But I can understand the hype of using it if that your case :P Just another general question : How do you put the life of mods over their head :D Last edited by Natchorx#6474 on Apr 8, 2016, 1:02:47 AM
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" I'll do my best to answer! 1) I use voidbringers because I like the ES and spell crit is nice as well. If you were to have a 21/20 purity and Vaald +1 voids, you could potentially have another max res from them, but that is not something I have. Facebreakers are something I use when I want to smash face even harder. 2) Not sure as my boots don't have it! 3) Headhunter is not about cost effective. I use it because I have it and I didn't buy it for this build either! No matter the rolls on the belt, HH will always be better than a +50 es belt with +1 endurance charge. HH is not required! No doubt a +50 ES belt with some res and an endurance charge is more cost effective as HH is ridiculously expensive. 4) what do you mean by life of mods? For my current builds, thoughts and videos. youtube.com/andypistone www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Apr 8, 2016, 1:25:02 AM
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oups i mean't the life over the head of MOBS :P
You sure HH would still be better in a fight like atziri or core mini bosses/malachai? |
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