[2.3] CoC Cyclone Discharge Trickster! HC/Level 100 Viable!

sorry about the question, coz tired to read 100 of pages , does this build can do core maps?

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nuzinai99 wrote:

sorry about the question, coz tired to read 100 of pages , does this build can do core maps?

I am gonna go ahead and say...maybe. If you follow this build 100% with no changes, it will be tough. (I tried it, both core and uber atziri.) The OP never mentioned in any of the comments or in his thread that this build is Uber Atziri Viable / Twinned Core Viable because this build is simply not designed for that. It's a map clearer. It gets you to level 100 fast.

If you do want to do Uber atziri, then you could do what I have planned.

i) Switch out Increased AOE/Conc Effect to Blade Vortex (For boss fights, BV is WAY superior. For Map clear, inc AOE is superior. (I really like the Inc aoe for maps, so I use a second volls with 3G-2B-1R which I swap for Ubers alone)
(Fun Fact: Every single Lvl 100 Trickster CoC Discharger in both Hardcore and Softcore uses BV as 6th link)

ii) Get a +1 to socketed gems Voidbringer and get Lvl 21 Purity of Fire and Lightning. This gives you an extra +1% Max resistance.
ii) Get extra reduced mana reserved nodes + Enlighten 4 (Or Enlighten 3 and +1 Voidbringers) and run a Blasphemy Enfeeble.

If you do these three changes, all the content becomes almost too easy. I am able to do Uber atziri by just using BV as 6th link (But it is very risky and tough). The 2nd and 3rd point are just my personal preference and future plans to be extra safe and be able to do ALL content including Twinned Core EASILY. (I am sure I will be able to do Uber atziri with amazing ease if I make those upgrades. Especially enfeeble. 21/20 Enfeeble's power is amazing!)

Hi :) am kinda new in the game, i dont really have all the mecanics, would it be possible to re-upload the skill tree ? and maybe add something like, lvl 30 and 60 ? And, i dont understand the difference between the tree with the diamond flask and without. Is there a big difference between ?
Anyway, build look so fun and cool, i really would like to enjoy it ;)

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M091190A wrote:

Hi :) am kinda new in the game, i dont really have all the mecanics, would it be possible to re-upload the skill tree ? and maybe add something like, lvl 30 and 60 ? And, i dont understand the difference between the tree with the diamond flask and without. Is there a big difference between ?
Anyway, build look so fun and cool, i really would like to enjoy it ;)

The tree is not optimised for levelling. You're going to have to make your own tree while levelling depending upon what you use to level. I picked up the phys damage nodes near the shadow start and levelled using a blade vortex and later bladefall setup. it wasn't efficient but it got the job done. Good luck mate. You're in for a rough ride. But its going to be worth it when you make the switch :D

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Le_Sanzo wrote:

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nuzinai99 wrote:

sorry about the question, coz tired to read 100 of pages , does this build can do core maps?

I am gonna go ahead and say...maybe. If you follow this build 100% with no changes, it will be tough. (I tried it, both core and uber atziri.) The OP never mentioned in any of the comments or in his thread that this build is Uber Atziri Viable / Twinned Core Viable because this build is simply not designed for that. It's a map clearer. It gets you to level 100 fast.

If you do want to do Uber atziri, then you could do what I have planned.

i) Switch out Increased AOE/Conc Effect to Blade Vortex (For boss fights, BV is WAY superior. For Map clear, inc AOE is superior. (I really like the Inc aoe for maps, so I use a second volls with 3G-2B-1R which I swap for Ubers alone)
(Fun Fact: Every single Lvl 100 Trickster CoC Discharger in both Hardcore and Softcore uses BV as 6th link)

ii) Get a +1 to socketed gems Voidbringer and get Lvl 21 Purity of Fire and Lightning. This gives you an extra +1% Max resistance.
ii) Get extra reduced mana reserved nodes + Enlighten 4 (Or Enlighten 3 and +1 Voidbringers) and run a Blasphemy Enfeeble.

If you do these three changes, all the content becomes almost too easy. I am able to do Uber atziri by just using BV as 6th link (But it is very risky and tough). The 2nd and 3rd point are just my personal preference and future plans to be extra safe and be able to do ALL content including Twinned Core EASILY. (I am sure I will be able to do Uber atziri with amazing ease if I make those upgrades. Especially enfeeble. 21/20 Enfeeble's power is amazing!)

To do Uber you should switch out Inc AoE for conc effect at times. Plenty of people did Uber in 2.2 and I'd guess 2.3 as it did not change much. I am sure some searches should show it. I did not play this league as much, as such did not attempt it. But it is unchanged and still doable.

Core is a very tough map. I am sure it can do Core, but Twinned? Not sure. I don't try and state things I don't know so I can't say on that.

There are very few level 100s this league. The nerf to maps made it a bit tougher. There were many more in Perandus. So looking at other people is tougher this league.

If I want a devotion am I better to

1) Farm dried lake hoping the cards will drops
or
2) Do T7-T10 maps hoping I'll drop something to sell to buy it/the cards.

Just go for mathils fakener and farm currency for devotion ;)

Having fun with this build so far, though haven't been able to push it terribly far just yet.

I'm curious about two things:

Do we focus on building Frenzy charges at all? I don't have Swift Killer yet and really, I don't imagine it would add all that much to the build damage-wise. As stated its a QoL kind of thing. But currently, unless I have missed something (I'm relatively new so forgive me if I'm missing something obvious) I dont generate *any* Frenzy charges. I don't see it mentioned, but wanted to check if this was correct? Its just mentioned at one point that we "Do a lot of fire and lightning damage" - so I wasn't sure.

Secondly, and this is just something that popped into my head last night.. I got Steppan Eard's last night and was curious.. Do we get the 50% damage bonus standing on Burning Ground that WE put down? Ie, if I drop a fire trap and stand on the burning ground it creates, do I get the bonus damage? I almost think it *might* be worth it to keep a Fire Trap slotted somewhere for certain bosses if this was the case. Just wondering.

Damage seems to be my issue. Not map mobs, they insta-pop, but some bosses just take me a few seconds to take down and sometimes it causes me problems. I have decent leech and all but for extended boss fights sometimes I start to get out damaged. I haven't done anything passed about t12 on this guy (unlucky with map drops, only had him 'functional' for a few days). I say damage is the issue and not survival because I hold my own well for several seconds, but the longer the fight lasts the worse it is for us as damage begins to really stack up. I actually got popped by t9 Dom last night, which was bizarre. Also, I am running BV, not the Inc/Conc combo.

Of course, my ES is pretty bad.. I'm sitting at 7.6k /w 20q lv18 Disc. My helm is bad (212), no %ES modded on rings, and my shield, at 350, could absolutely be better. My resists are sitting around 101-110 without Purity auras. I run Lightning at all times and will drop my Curse Aura for Fire if I I feel like I need to. I'm running Blasphemy - Warlords Mark (No Voll's Ammy yet) with CWDT - Enfeeble (this seems to enfeeble some ranged mobs and other mobs as they come in, before being overwritten by the Warlords Mark) - I feel like Ive noticed a little QoL improvement from it and less spike damage but it could just be placebo. Either way its not hurting anything.

Just figured I'd post this here and see what folks said. Currently working on upgrading to a better helm, then I'll be working on the amulet.. Though this late in the league, outside of a miracle, I dont think I'll get it in time.

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entropicbydesign wrote:

Do we focus on building Frenzy charges at all? I don't have Swift Killer yet and really, I don't imagine it would add all that much to the build damage-wise. As stated its a QoL kind of thing. But currently, unless I have missed something (I'm relatively new so forgive me if I'm missing something obvious) I dont generate *any* Frenzy charges. I don't see it mentioned, but wanted to check if this was correct? Its just mentioned at one point that we "Do a lot of fire and lightning damage" - so I wasn't sure.

I was think the same. I think it's better if we take the 4% attack and cast speed instead of getting FC as option for last point.

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entropicbydesign wrote:

Secondly, and this is just something that popped into my head last night.. I got Steppan Eard's last night and was curious.. Do we get the 50% damage bonus standing on Burning Ground that WE put down? Ie, if I drop a fire trap and stand on the burning ground it creates, do I get the bonus damage? I almost think it *might* be worth it to keep a Fire Trap slotted somewhere for certain bosses if this was the case. Just wondering.

Nope.It won't work :)Quote from wiki:

"The unique modifiers of Steppan Eard only apply when the player is actually affected by the relevant ground effects. For example, Steppan Eard does not provide a life regeneration bonus if the player is immune to chill or if the chilled ground is generated by an ally, such as via Arctic Armour or an Aquamarine Flask"

Hi PoE players :)
If someone could just help me. Am kinda new in the game and i have some issues with the leveling stuff (it's not about the tree or the gear).
I started with lightning dreals and switch after for firestorm, i had no trouble at all for act 1 2 but had some difficulties to finish act 3 (i still managed to not die), but i would need some help for act 4 and after. What can u suggested me ? Gems setup ? And when do u think we can start using cyclone+discharge and stuff ? :D
A lot of question, but i think that for veteran players those questions are kinding easy to anwsers.