cyclone AS vs MS

Hi

Cyclone = 2 hit per spin

More movement = spin faster

On a straight line spin if you have more movement speed you can start a cyclone cast at least twice on the target (aoe range)

So you get 4 hit minimum on that single target

So movement speed is really important to hit more a target

Im talking about hit rate and not dps.

Could someone confirm this?

And explain movement speed vs attack speed?

Thanks

Movement speed is BAD for cyclone if you want consistent dps vs. few mobs. Movement speed has no effect on how rapidly you spin; AS does that. MS just makes you move faster. The slower you move, the longer you hit a single monster with one cyclone.
That being said, MS is still great, it just means you cast cyclone more often and zigzag back and forth.
Does that help?

lower MS also means you get hit more often

so it depends on your playstyle. I can imagine some tanky builds wanted to have low MS so that they hit same target more. I can also imagine some builds wanting to go through as fast of possible so that they are not hit much and still do the job (ie evasion/dodge max crit cast on crit)

Move speed increases the frequency in which you use the Cyclone skill, but the first hit after activating the skill has a 50% damage penalty so if you're trying for damage it's not the best idea to rely on move speed.

If you're doing something like Cast on Crit then you don't care about the damage penalty and the simple answer is both is important (unless you're using Tryp, which attacks so slow you're likely better off ignoring attack speed altogether).

I am not talking about dps.

cyclone do 2hits per spin.

Your spin rate are relative per attack speed or cast of cyclone?

If its by cast Then movement speed help to get the 2hits by cyclone faster

If its by attack speed, you need to wait the delay of cyclone cast?


Thanks to clarify

Fyi

I tried 40/21 movement speed pot and my hit rate is twice per straight line on a single mob.

whats that if movement speed as nothing to do with cyclone hit rate?

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steiner87 wrote:

whats that if movement speed as nothing to do with cyclone hit rate?

it has nothing to do with hit rate. It affects how long enemies are within your AoE. when they are there longer, they receive more hits

A little offtop question about ms cyclone, can you achieve more casts(skill use) per second with high movespeed than with incinerate?

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A little offtop question about ms cyclone, can you achieve more casts(skill use) per second with high movespeed than with incinerate?

you mean with very short moves?

Yes, short moves in one place, and i dont care about penalty, my intention is to use any skill as often as possible. For now im playing it safe and preparing for incinerate(or wither possibly) but i cant take cyclone off my mind. It is hard to test however so i prefer to ask before i try and make sciene happen

@OP cyclone has penalty "First Hit Deals 50% Less Damage" so its better to stack up attack speed ranther to spin many times in place (if you care about damage) imho