[2.2] Occultist (Contagion + Essence Drain) Beginner starting build

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She11by wrote:

WTF guys why do you wanna Chaos penetration, is doesn't work on Damage over time spells only on Hit (you can check it on wiki) !

It's not penetration, it's reducing the resistance. Therefore, as the dot is chaos damage, the shred is taken into account. There's a difference between a penetration and a resistance lowering.

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O_Lucky_O wrote:

Hi I have a question about the curse set up.

As you play with blasphemy the short range of the aura makes the curse in this set up more defensive right ? So why play Vulnerability with blasphemy ?

Would it not make more sense to self curse vulnerability while having temporal chain and enfeeble in the blasphemy set up ?

Also what aura would you play, if you where running an curse resistant map ?

-High level blasphemy makes the aura waaay large enough. You want at least temp chains for the initial longer dot ; I don't like self casting anything other than ed/cont personally, so it's either dual blasphemy TC/Vuln and CwdT/firestorm/CoH/Enfeeble (for a lvl 20 enfeeble on lvl 1 cwdt) to be basically unkillable, or just TC/Vuln if you don't want the 4 points in another curse, on cursable maps.

Again, both TC and Vuln have an offensive component, and while you're not casting ed/cont, you probably want to be running straight forward into the pack to clear as fast as possible, standing still to cast is a loss of time.

-Curse immune maps, usually, purity of elements / arctic armor / clarity / that kind of thing. Though I really don't run those if they're tier 12+.

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zeldicx wrote:

am the only one that has died in normal laberyntht? This build semms to be good but i think that it isnt solid on low levels

Your damage isn't gimped on normal labyrinth, just the cont spread. For normal lab I'd recommend you to start optimizing your flasks - even q-less - 'cos those can help a bit. Having a seething flasks, among other things, does help a lot against izaro's burst. Also, don't let him charge or whatever.

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modestjord wrote:

So im having some trouble with the build im hoping someone could help me understand...

im lvl 66 and i just got a 5l chest. currently my ED does 4k dps tooltip but when i hover iver it it says 11.5k chaos dmg per second but it feels like my dps is paper. if im with a party i can barely proc my contagion and get the chain reaction going because the mobs are too tanky to kill with the ED missile. the other people are ripping through the mobs while i stuggle to clear. if i run into a pack of resistant mobs its as if im useless because i cant get my ED to proc on contagion. also how come the contagion circle of efect seems so small.... ive seen and heard people clearing rooms with this.... as of now the clear speed is below average at best and on top of that its so easy to die im not tanky at all with 3.3k HP and 800ES....

what am i not understanding or what gear am i missing???

I got an upgraded shield that gave me 40% more spell damage and it only gave me 200DPS on ED. What is a good number on ED tooltip that would allow me to easily clear mobs with contagion. Keep in mind my ED is doing 11.5K chaos dmg per second once it hits but the inital proc is not rlly killing mobs fast enough to get the contagion off.

help please? i only have like 5-7 dps nodes left in the tree so i dont see what im doing wrong.

To put it bluntly, ED/Cont is a solo build. It sucks in groups, unless you have a 6L chest & 6L staff (6L ED on a +1 chaos / +1 gems / fuckton of spell damage staff, and 6L cont on chest).

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wills0n wrote:

okay boys, im level 70 now, using a the consuming dark fiend dagger boost alot your single target damage, also im using the pierce gem instead of slower projectiles and damage wise this build is a beast, now when it comes to defense i still dont get it, should i go straight to Energy shield items, or what, it is just that i feel so squishy with 75resists on merc even with cast on damage taken and imortal call.

I personally like to play life based, was standing at around 5.2k health at around lvl 90 last season, and I could have gone way higher if i hadn't adulterated my ed/cont into my solo MFer.
I don't run immortal call, personally, my links are :
-6L ED (chest)
-3L cont (cont / increased area of effect / item rarity) on wand
-2L flame dash + chaos brolem or 3L lightning warp on shield
-4L withertotem

Where things change :
If I DONT have the blasphemy helm
-4L dual curse blasphemy + enlighten setup
-CWDT (lvl 1) / Firestorm (lvl 7) / Curse on Hit (lvl 20) / Third curse (lvl 20) (usually enfeeble for me, TC/Vuln in blasphemy)

If I DO have the blasphemy helm
-4L tri-curse + enlighten in helm
-A defensive CWDT (in which case I Guess a 4L CWDT/Chaos Brolem/Frost wall/Immortal call would probably work, or a CWDT/GMP/Arctic Breath for tons of chilled ground and even more slow.)

3.5k health should be way enough if you have TC/enfeeble to clear until at least tier 10, when it was pure MF I had around 3.8k and not even full resists and could still clear 10-11 half afk.

My gear at the moment, level 70, 3.2k life and 4k es.





Think im going to drop the bloom point and go wicked ward. No idea about the curses as never used curses or blasphemy but for me it seems ES gear is best. My damage is slighltly lacking atm. 8K Dps per second is a little lackluster, hope it improves but not sure where the damage is going to come from. I guess I can get 50% damage on gloves, more spell on my shield and my gems with level, plus im only on a 4l.


Fuck, just realised if you want +1 Curse you have to take profane bloom (which frankly is not very good) so looks like im going to invest the 5 passives into the +1 curse and just have a little bit less life.

So, is it just me or is Singularity really good in this build?

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Pignite wrote:

So, is it just me or is Singularity really good in this build?

I haven't seen that suggested yet but looking at it you might be right. I've been using Consuming Dark and I'm wondering how the two compare.

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theorangeshield wrote:

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Pignite wrote:

So, is it just me or is Singularity really good in this build?

I haven't seen that suggested yet but looking at it you might be right. I've been using Consuming Dark and I'm wondering how the two compare.

I thought about it after someone made a post on Reddit about Spell Totem Wither causing the "hindered" debuff. Not sure if it's the best, but it's really good for sure if you're active with the totem. Or even if you're not, if temp chains causes hindered, which I'm not sure of yet.

Will make something similar, since my previous HC died.

Will try wiuth:
- CI option (Zealot to venefit from ED regen)
- Auras: Grace and Blasphemy + Vuln
- Occultist with Void Beacon and Vile Bastion


How early (total ES wise) can one take CI?

I need some help on a CI contagion/essence drain build tree. Right now I'm at 6k ES and 3k life and feel like I could use CI better. Are there any good trees that have been reviewed or created for this build?

I'm personally going for a CI build like this.

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GGZII wrote:

My gear at the moment, level 70, 3.2k life and 4k es.

Think im going to drop the bloom point and go wicked ward. No idea about the curses as never used curses or blasphemy but for me it seems ES gear is best. My damage is slighltly lacking atm. 8K Dps per second is a little lackluster, hope it improves but not sure where the damage is going to come from. I guess I can get 50% damage on gloves, more spell on my shield and my gems with level, plus im only on a 4l.


Fuck, just realised if you want +1 Curse you have to take profane bloom (which frankly is not very good) so looks like im going to invest the 5 passives into the +1 curse and just have a little bit less life.

Honestly, profane bloom IS pretty awesome. Doesn't add all that much to clearspeed, but for bosses that have a lot of adds, the explosions are great.

Also, the 10% increased damage against targets who have curse is probably -not sure about that - an independent multiplier so it'd be 10% increased total damage, not base damage, which is pretty darn awesome too.

I'm playing life-based so I don't have the problem you have - obviously more ES doesn't really appeal to me. But yeah, honestly, I don't see myself dropping bloom.

What's your opinion on Golems? Right now I'm running stone bro for the life regen. But I'm in doubt between him and chaos golem.