[2.4] CI Bladefall Trapper - High tier mapping - EV/ES/Block - Updating for 2.4.

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i prepared couple of Atziri sets to test it better cause there are no Mobs around the bosses


i tested it on apex. generally speaking it seemed a little bit weaker than with controlled destruction instead of cluster, but again i have a 20/20 cd versus a lvl 10 cluster.

also i took the dot nodes instead of the phys one after the shadow start, so (for how armor works) i do even less damage.
Hello,

I was wondering if Occultist Witch is still viable since I couldn't find any info about the passive tree (im using a slightly different version of the one u planned in the video guide for Occultist)
Could u add the final tree and a small lvling section (if it is still viable ofc)?

also I was wondering if is still viable using Bino's + Southbounds







PS: sry for my bad english
final tree would be roughly the same as Saboteur for Occultist

leveling as Occultist i'd just take some spell damage nodes early and respec them later and rush straight for trap nodes

I'll add it into leveling section

Yes, Bino's + Southbound is still strong even with no Ascendancy picked
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Last edited by Justifi3d#3841 on Mar 11, 2016, 2:19:25 PM
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tufferugli wrote:
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i prepared couple of Atziri sets to test it better cause there are no Mobs around the bosses


i tested it on apex. generally speaking it seemed a little bit weaker than with controlled destruction instead of cluster, but again i have a 20/20 cd versus a lvl 10 cluster.

also i took the dot nodes instead of the phys one after the shadow start, so (for how armor works) i do even less damage.


cluster should be around lv 18; it's a huge increase to level the penalty down

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Justifi3d wrote:

I also so far only tested with Conc effect + cluster trap vs Conc effect + Void Manipulation because of the slot colors and Cluster trap is indeed performing better IF the overlap happens


thats also what i experienced. you have to make sure that at least 3 are overlapping (assuming the target does not die through poisons full tick (2 seconds), because poisons damage over its full duration is stronger without cluster traps and may result in more damage. otherwise if you want/let poison completely tick for its full duration all must overlap to be stronger than without cluster traps).
Last edited by Ferox28#6657 on Mar 11, 2016, 9:43:33 PM
i started this build 4 days ago , it changes everyday ; now i'm confused , level 45 . bino ? DOT ? wander ? why physical nodes ? poison prolif ? southbound ? cluster trap ? saboteur ? occultist ? chain?
foolish mortal, only skilled players blessed by RNGesus himself can ever farm one, not you!
It doesn't change every day, all i'm doing is testing viable setups for Saboteur and updating it for people who also want to try it

the core of the build that i played in 2.1 and that is on all the videos is still the same

It's Bino's + Southbound

Everything is explained in the guide but i'm trying to level fast now so i was updating the guide in bits and cleaning the old information that's why it's constantly updated

I am also testing if cluster trap is better but i need high lvl maps to conclusively say so because everything dies too damn fast regardless of what gems you use, i'm currently stuck on tier 6-7 maps and need to buy some higher tier maps to progress

I explained all the different setups already in the guide but i'll try to make it more clear what is what since it still seems to confuse some people

IGN JustifiedF
Heya,

great build, thanks for all of the work you put into it!
I got a question regarding reaching that high numbers on ES. You mentioned somewhere you did Atziri with mid 70s level and non-capped resis - but you mentioned 7.5k ES. I am level 78 now and I just reach 3.8k ES. Is there and hint where to specially put high ES items in, any mechanics I don't see probably?

Still got a shitty breastplate and shield. Hell, how could even 500 ES more on those two chance thousands of ES ... Looks like I am confused. Feels damn squishy as I am now. Descided I am doing something wrong :p
i take ~300% es from the tree when accounted for bonus from intelligence which ends up multiplying your ES by 4(100% base + 300%/100)

that then ends up being multiplied by 1.15 due the node behind CI that gives you 15% MORE ES

Shield and chest are your biggest sources of ES

next then is helm then boots and gloves

also you get around 300 ES from a high lvl discipline

so even with crappy gear like 300 es chest 300 es shield 200 es helm and 100 on gloves and boots, together with discipline you should be breaking at least 6K ES even if you have no ES on your jewelry(you can get better gear than that for like 10 chaos total)

i guess it's a matter of getting more ES nodes

i like to take a lot of ES nodes early since damage isn't an issue in low tier maps and only specc damage nodes after lvl 75-80

also if you have a good shield and took the Deflection and adjacent nodes in shadow area it will almost double the ES from your shield and also give you 4% block

Energy from within and melding is also huge - make sure you have that, those 4 nodes + jewel slot give you a total of 52% ES wtith perfect roll jewel which costs like 5 chaos

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also run discipline + blasphemy enfeeble until you get a high lvl enlighten, then you can switch to grace and use cwdt enfeeble or you can keep the blasphemy setup and even go heretic's veil so you can run double blasphemy like i'm doing right now

IGN JustifiedF
Last edited by Justifi3d#3841 on Mar 12, 2016, 8:07:22 AM
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Justifi3d wrote:
i take ~300% es from the tree when accounted for bonus from intelligence which ends up multiplying your ES by 4(100% base + 300%/100)

that then ends up being multiplied by 1.15 due the node behind CI that gives you 15% MORE ES

Shield and chest are your biggest sources of ES

next then is helm then boots and gloves

also you get around 300 ES from a high lvl discipline

so even with crappy gear like 300 es chest 300 es shield 200 es helm and 100 on gloves and boots, together with discipline you should be breaking at least 6K ES even if you have no ES on your jewelry(you can get better gear than that for like 10 chaos total)

i guess it's a matter of getting more ES nodes

i like to take a lot of ES nodes early since damage isn't an issue in low tier maps and only specc damage nodes after lvl 75-80

also if you have a good shield and took the Deflection and adjacent nodes in shadow area it will almost double the ES from your shield and also give you 4% block

Energy from within and melding is also huge - make sure you have that, those 4 nodes + jewel slot give you a total of 52% ES wtith perfect roll jewel which costs like 5 chaos

edit:

also run discipline + blasphemy enfeeble until you get a high lvl enlighten, then you can switch to grace and use cwdt enfeeble or you can keep the blasphemy setup and even go heretic's veil so you can run double blasphemy like i'm doing right now



Thank you very much for your fast answers!
Oh my god. while checking my tree for the total amount of %ES to double check if I missed something, I noticed I diddnt put out a point out of acrobatics. So, one respec point later my ES has been doubled.

Checked all of your points. Guess I have to collect currency and get a Splendour. Looks damn good ...

One question, you are using a Buckler - kind of shield? What about a spirit shield on SC? Oh, and I took the deflection nodes, do those work with a spirit shield as well?

Thanks!
yes deflection nodes increase all global defences on a shield(armor, evasion, es)

i'm using this shield because it was damn cheap for how much es it gives, bought it for 15c

eventually i'll try to get as close to 600 ES on shield as i can spend on

or if a good Evasion/ES shield appears i will use that, it kinda depends on the market

early on there's no real GG gear atm so i just try to find cheap deals

Splendour is a very good chest, and will be the highest ES/Evasion chest you can find on the market probably for quite a while until people start finidng more high ilvl stuff

it's also very safe to attempt to 6L because it retains value much better than rare chest

rare evasion/es chests are not popular and you might lose money manually 6L-ing because the market is rather niche

that's why i went with buying a white 6L for rather cheap and chaos spamming until i get something OK

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