[2.1 DoubleTrouble] Aims' Blade Vortex : 300+K DPS : >5K life Atziri EZ Cheap: Hybrid option added.

IGN: HarroHarbinger
Last edited by Catharsis#3356 on Jan 5, 2016, 6:44:44 AM
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phx wrote:
Hello, trying to follow last part (bladefall) of your build.

Level 79 now, here are my items:
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Passives:
Defense:
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Bladefall + inc aoe (hatred+hoa+warlords):
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Bladefall + conc effect (hatred+hoa+warlords):
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I'm running tabula as 6-link Volls too expensive for me.
Any tips on increasing deeps?


Good gear. Gems levels and a few more levels should put you over 100K. You'll never get powercharged w/o volls...

If you want really High DPS and want to play bladefall all the time you need a Pledge of hands.

Git R Dun!
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Catharsis wrote:


Thats some good DPS with inc aoe... I wonder whats more tanky. The acro/phase acro or LC route..
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jan 5, 2016, 8:49:33 AM
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Aim_Deep wrote:
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Catharsis wrote:


Thats some good DPS with inc aoe... I wonder whats more tanky. The acro/phase acro or LC route..


Hard to say at this point, but I haven't died once since lvl 70 (82 now), and done up to 77 rare maps.
With how flexible the build is with leech, Cybil's + LL swap + warlords, it's really great defensively.
Though for most maps I find that cwdt + warlords seems to be enough with good flask use.
I'd say the AA helps quite a bit too.

P.S just did poorjoy's deathless @ 82
IGN: HarroHarbinger
Last edited by Catharsis#3356 on Jan 5, 2016, 10:02:07 AM
Hey, AIM!

What build would you say is "better" ... this one or your SuperNova?

Thanks
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Aim_Deep wrote:

Good gear. Gems levels and a few more levels should put you over 100K. You'll never get powercharged w/o volls...

If you want really High DPS and want to play bladefall all the time you need a Pledge of hands.


Wouldn't it be a huge loss of crit?
Also currently I have 4k hp, tried Atziri yesterday with 54k conceffect dps, died on mirror Atziri phase. Seems too low hp. So 2 questions - first about the staff and crit chance, and second - what would you suggest to change in my tree to get some more life %?
Regarding the calculation of the real DPS:
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Syclic wrote:
The tooltip DPS on blade vortex is a huge chunk of misinformation. The tooltip DPS it shows assumes that you are hitting once with each blade and constantly casting.

To get your actual DPS you need to multiply your DPS by your Cast Time on the tooltip, then multiply by 2. This is because regardless of any factors each blade deals it's damage twice a second.


So if you have 10k tooltip with 0.15 cast speed you are actually doing 3k dps per blade out and 150k if 50 are out.


Just to get that clear:
Tooltip DPS (TDPS) * Cast time * 2 * Amount of blades = Real DPS

Some random numbers I pulled out of my ass:

TDPS: 4000
Cast Time: 0.2
Amount of Blades: 50
Real DPS = 80 000

If you change the cast time now to a faster(smaller) number we get a decrease in the DPS
TDPS: 4000
Cast Time: 0.15
Amount of Blades: 50
Real DPS: 60 000

So what if we just take the plain numbers and give a shit about the tooltip:



Sadly I dont get any crit chances out of your gear right now. So I use my own.
Average damage per Hit per Blade = 1027.5
Hits per second Per Blade: 2
Crit chance: 42% or 0,42
Crit Mult: 300% or 3
Amount of Blades : 50

Damage should be (if I didn't fuck it up):
Average Damage * (Amount of no crit - Crit Chance * Hits per Second) + Average Damage * ( Crit Chance * Hits per Second * Crit Mult) * Amount of Blades

1027.5 * (2-0,42*2) + 2055 * (0,42*2*3) * 50 = 189060

Remember that I used my own numbers for Crit/Crit Mult.



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phul wrote:
Regarding the calculation of the real DPS:
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Syclic wrote:
The tooltip DPS on blade vortex is a huge chunk of misinformation. The tooltip DPS it shows assumes that you are hitting once with each blade and constantly casting.

To get your actual DPS you need to multiply your DPS by your Cast Time on the tooltip, then multiply by 2. This is because regardless of any factors each blade deals it's damage twice a second.


So if you have 10k tooltip with 0.15 cast speed you are actually doing 3k dps per blade out and 150k if 50 are out.


Just to get that clear:
Tooltip DPS (TDPS) * Cast time * 2 * Amount of blades = Real DPS

Some random numbers I pulled out of my ass:

TDPS: 4000
Cast Time: 0.2
Amount of Blades: 50
Real DPS = 80 000

If you change the cast time now to a faster(smaller) number we get a decrease in the DPS
TDPS: 4000
Cast Time: 0.15
Amount of Blades: 50
Real DPS: 60 000

So what if we just take the plain numbers and give a shit about the tooltip:



Sadly I dont get any crit chances out of your gear right now. So I use my own.
Average damage per Hit per Blade = 1027.5
Hits per second Per Blade: 2
Crit chance: 42% or 0,42
Crit Mult: 300% or 3
Amount of Blades : 50

Damage should be (if I didn't fuck it up):
Average Damage * (Amount of no crit - Crit Chance * Hits per Second) + Average Damage * ( Crit Chance * Hits per Second * Crit Mult) * Amount of Blades

1027.5 * (2-0,42*2) + 2055 * (0,42*2*3) * 50 = 189060

Remember that I used my own numbers for Crit/Crit Mult.





Can you link your gear? I don't get how I'm so far from even 10k DPS on the tooltip but you guys are flying around with 15k+ like its nothing.
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muera wrote:
Hey, AIM!

What build would you say is "better" ... this one or your SuperNova?

Thanks


My supernova was my favorite build other than broken discharger. the whole lightning warp and double cursing was pretty neat and innovative I think. No one was using ice nova either. Anyway I've played that build since 1.2 rampage. time to move on.
Git R Dun!
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cranialpein wrote:


Can you link your gear? I don't get how I'm so far from even 10k DPS on the tooltip but you guys are flying around with 15k+ like its nothing.


My gear in original post.

I am playing the higher DPS volls spec.
Most my gems are 20/20
I am level 95.
I do have two very good dagger for that screen.
I am fully charged on power charges and using CONC effect. But no flasks.

Basically 10K is normal as you are comming up but 20K+ is possible.


Now level 19 gem.

Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jan 7, 2016, 3:47:43 PM

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