Explosive Arrow

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Shinsoo wrote:

Making explosive arrow explode at 5 charges or making it a function of attack speed would be overpowered. It would also make it like every other skill; stand still and kill stuff.

The beauty of the skill is that if you get to 5 charges with a proper build, you are rewarded with killing pretty much everything on your screen. The drawback is staying alive for that period. That 1 second creates an entire dynamic different from the endless spam of other skills. But only if you properly utilize that one second.

Things you can do in 1 second of downtime: flammability (hint: you should be doing this every time they aren't cursed and shouldn't be cursing before shooting EA), refresh decoy totem, re-position, loot, kill the pack that's in a different direction, use your switch bow to kill a rare with elemental hit, etc.

Speaking of decoy totem, if anything has any sort of kill potential on you, you should be using it. Not only does it buy time for the explosion thus partially nullifying the defensive drawback of explosive arrow, it groups enemies for increased damage.

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These two aspects of the skill essentially punish you for increased duration passives and attack speed.

Attack speed does not punish you. Quill rain is the best bow for this skill for a reason (1 other bow might be as good). The difference between 3 aps and 5 aps is immense. Yes the charge timer can devalue attack speed. But depending on how you utilize the duration of the charge timer or 5 stacks will kill everything anyway, it may not devalue it at all. In every scenario though, it increases dps.

-A player who uses EA on 70 maps.

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FoolyCoolant wrote:

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Shinsoo wrote:

Making explosive arrow explode at 5 charges or making it a function of attack speed would be overpowered. It would also make it like every other skill; stand still and kill stuff.

The beauty of the skill is that if you get to 5 charges with a proper build, you are rewarded with killing pretty much everything on your screen. The drawback is staying alive for that period. That 1 second creates an entire dynamic different from the endless spam of other skills. But only if you properly utilize that one second.

Things you can do in 1 second of downtime: flammability (hint: you should be doing this every time they aren't cursed and shouldn't be cursing before shooting EA), refresh decoy totem, re-position, loot, kill the pack that's in a different direction, use your switch bow to kill a rare with elemental hit, etc.

Speaking of decoy totem, if anything has any sort of kill potential on you, you should be using it. Not only does it buy time for the explosion thus partially nullifying the defensive drawback of explosive arrow, it groups enemies for increased damage.

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These two aspects of the skill essentially punish you for increased duration passives and attack speed.

Attack speed does not punish you. Quill rain is the best bow for this skill for a reason (1 other bow might be as good). The difference between 3 aps and 5 aps is immense. Yes the charge timer can devalue attack speed. But depending on how you utilize the duration of the charge timer or 5 stacks will kill everything anyway, it may not devalue it at all. In every scenario though, it increases dps.

-A player who uses EA on 70 maps.

Have you ever played explosive arrow in party play? The way explosive arrow works right now makes it completely non-viable in any kind of group play. By the time you can get 5 cahrges off, you have to wait another second for it to actually explode, by wich point everything on the screen has been AOE'd down anyway, let alone the fact it doesn't go off on mobs that die frozen, wich negates your ability to play with a good portion of people. You literally could not play with a cold witch.

-A player who used EA on 70 maps.

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XxDiabloxX wrote:

I have one question too... If i put added cold dmg support gem to explosive arrow and also cold to fire support gem, does it affect explosion dmg or just arrow dmg? And then if ill take increased cold dmg passives, it will increase cold dmg which is converted to fire dmg... if so then all increased cold dmg % passives and gear properties increases my explosion dmg of EA as well as increased fire dmg% passives?
Am I right or not?
Hope you got my point :D

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noth1n wrote:

Few questions about arrow mechanics and their effects on burn damage.

* Stacking 5 stacks, does the burn damage of 1/3rd get calculated of the combined damage that is dealt at the 5 stack total or does each stack deal its fire damage seperatly.

* Assuming you'd use elemental proliferation to spread the burn from one exposion, how does the burn aspect interact with elemental equilibrium.

* An added question regarding proliferation and equilibrium is, what happends when you try to negate this effect with a skill like lightning arrow. Does the burn duration reapply equilibrium on each tick?

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PyrosEien wrote:

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XxDiabloxX wrote:

I have one question too... If i put added cold dmg support gem to explosive arrow and also cold to fire support gem, does it affect explosion dmg or just arrow dmg? And then if ill take increased cold dmg passives, it will increase cold dmg which is converted to fire dmg... if so then all increased cold dmg % passives and gear properties increases my explosion dmg of EA as well as increased fire dmg% passives?
Am I right or not?
Hope you got my point :D

Added damage affects both. Cold to Fire would add fire damage to the explosion, and yes cold % nodes would affect your added cold. It'll be a very minor number however, and for 2 supports, you can do a lot better by using other stuff.

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Spacke wrote:

Just to be on the safe side, does the "Fire Penetration" gem work for the explosion?