Cleave
"Why does the mana cost matter? Even a paltry amount of mana leech will give you back more than it costs. |
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Did cleave change?
Is it used to be -40% total dmg, now it's physical dmg instead for dual wield. |
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" It always had the Dual-Wield penalty as well. The regular always-applied damage penalty was shifted to Damage Effectiveness. Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Feb 3, 2013, 5:31:07 AM
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" So it would make more sense to make cleave build elemental than physical right. Last edited by heatzz#7635 on Feb 3, 2013, 6:06:07 AM
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For dual-wield, yes.
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The skill is inferior for a couple of reasons:
1) It has no additional effects as opposed to other AoE melee abilities. 2) The AoE is relatively low with 1) in mind. 3) No support gem to use on it besides AoE increase/concentration. Both INT ones. Last edited by Unacceptable#1772 on Feb 3, 2013, 5:56:59 PM
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" Besides, you know, Melee Physical, Added Fire, Faster Attacks, Weapon Elemental Damage, Leech, Life Gain on Hit :/ |
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" None of these actually increase the AoE and the Added Damage ones are affected by 30% reduction due to 70% damage effectiveness. Life On Hit and Lifeleech can be done with any ranged attack as well. |
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...I don't get it? Why is it a downside that the only AoE increase for any AoE skill is a downside specifically for Cleave?
(also, you worded that somewhat poorly, since you flat-out stated you could only use AoE/Conc :P ) Ground Slam also has 70% Damage Effectiveness and that's not a problem either. Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Feb 3, 2013, 7:01:05 PM
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i got to about 220k dps on diamond last ladder with this skill, id say its pretty good :)
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