Marauder - Explosive Arrow Marauder (Updated for Release) - Forum

I was looking to see if there was a rare bow better than quill rain. It would need +2 to bow gems and top end attack speed roll. I fired up Poe.xyz and guess what I find... The only bow with the search criteria was in my very own shop! Haha: Laughing so hard atm. Gonna be a pain to get some links on it but it is prob better than quill rain. Anyone think otherwise? IGN: @Deltrus My build and gear: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/462131	Posted by DeltruS#2041 on Apr 14, 2013, 9:37:06 PM Quote this Post
is it ok to run lmp/gmp with EA if you're doing docks/fellshrine? I currently just started and before reading your guide i assumed that people ran lmp/gmp with it. I'm stopping the lmp and gmp of course but was wondering why no one runs it. is it because ele prolif spreads the burn so no need for lmp/gmp?	Posted by Nikkaa#3886 on Apr 14, 2013, 11:06:10 PM Quote this Post
" Nikkaa wrote: is it ok to run lmp/gmp with EA if you're doing docks/fellshrine? I currently just started and before reading your guide i assumed that people ran lmp/gmp with it. I'm stopping the lmp and gmp of course but was wondering why no one runs it. is it because ele prolif spreads the burn so no need for lmp/gmp? Pretty much exactly that. The damage/spread of an explosive arrow with proliferated burns and increased AoE is already very strong. LMP/GMP multiply the damage of explosive arrow by 0.7 and 0.5 respectively. Since only 1 non-spell projectile can hit a single target at once, leaving out LMP/GMP gives higher single target DPS while leaving aoe dps around the same. IGN: @Deltrus My build and gear: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/462131 Last edited by DeltruS#2041 on Apr 14, 2013, 11:21:20 PM	Posted by DeltruS#2041 on Apr 14, 2013, 11:20:40 PM Quote this Post
oh okay i see thanks for the quick reply! another question. If i were to fire off the EA and then switch to the searing staff would it make the burn stronger? Last edited by Nikkaa#3886 on Apr 14, 2013, 11:26:58 PM	Posted by Nikkaa#3886 on Apr 14, 2013, 11:25:46 PM Quote this Post
Yes, it should.	Posted by Pastromy#5792 on Apr 14, 2013, 11:59:08 PM Quote this Post
I changed around the spec a bit. I think it should be a bit better. Spoiler http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7cT2892sqjwtcqlZ88aufNnAGrc-_gqQVXq48kWnhK6TbPbnYxo4tfKmV-w4qW464TrYeA1N44jxTdhYr76KrFmePIx2NugB3P6PgW86UqQZ4uoEs9-_G_phIRRN8B8CcSXfhO-DOKIAhNl07e98ZU1uaXrvR36-p2BLq8XSTQUtwA9AoCFgdPEY20OcDq0UdSmldEFW-u4O_MVOyGegNZKHdtN-Sn1mnvrSNunjaiSqGYUabJ2uEmkXHHF5HRSYrQ== Do you think the +Burn damage nodes are required? Because if they aren't then I can go like this: Spoiler http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7cT2892sqjwtcqlZ88auTP982cAatz7-Cq9sZp6QVXq48kXFivrSp4Suk2z252PwHzbpGji18m6qpleC5ASzogDjaqluPyc64YqvFE0CcXgNTeMqTYjx2mKDOFivvoqsWRUglKDvfDboAdz-jyzpg9todDpSpBni6t0N_EvYTd-_G_phIfzFznEl34TvVvpnoGwWhNl07e4OdEGHdmVNeu9OyCP2FHVKfUd-YEs1ku_wDq2rxQUt035aSCmlxFgn1Q== 7.4% regen and 367% life. EE isn't great in groups. If I play in groups I would get triple curse: ele weakness + temp chains + enfeeble. It sounds like the cap to damage is life because of reflect packs, so going for a bit less damage and more HP may result in a better experience. If I do need more damage I think I would get the burn dmg passives and drop the right connection to the duelist tree. Spoiler http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7cT2892sqjwtcqlZ88auTP982cAatz7-Cq9sZp6QVXq48kXFivrSp4Suk2z252PwHzbpGji18qZXguQEs6IAJKrjaqluOuGKrxRNAnEZhXgNTeOI8dpigzgabFivvoqsWZSg73ydrjboAdz-j2h0Emk6UqQZ4urYTRcc378b-mEhcXkl34TvhNl07WVNeu9HfmBLq8UFLcRYQKAn1SFgdPEY20OcDq0UdSmldEFW-u4O_MVOyGegNZKHdtN-Sn0= Since I wouldn't be needing split arrow for HP regen or ele equilibrium, I would use ranged attack totem + split arrow + chain + blind. If I didn't have koam's I would have a quill rain in weapon swap and have the totem in a 5L chest with faster attacks added on. That way I could swap to quill rain before I cast it to get super fast attacks on the totem. I am still trying to figure out what I would do in between casting explosive arrow. Normally you cast split arrow with life on hit but I will have so much regen that I doubt I would need that. I guess I would just cast more explosive arrow on other mobs XD. I would be using that +2 to bow gems bow that I posted above, along with faster attacks instead of conc effect. Do you know how much damage level 22 explosive arrow does compared to level 20? It isn't listed in the wiki. EDIT: If explosive arrow's damage does continue to follow the pattern as shown on the wiki, it would only gain 12%ish damage from 20 to 22. With that in mind it would probably to be better to just use quill rain since it has 78% more attack speed than my bow. I'd use my bow if it was something like a 25-35% damage boost at level 22. IGN: @Deltrus My build and gear: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/462131 Last edited by DeltruS#2041 on Apr 15, 2013, 1:46:25 AM	Posted by DeltruS#2041 on Apr 15, 2013, 12:53:07 AM Quote this Post
" DeltruS wrote: I changed around the spec a bit. I think it should be a bit better. Spoiler http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7cT2892sqjwtcqlZ88aufNnAGrc-_gqQVXq48kWnhK6TbPbnYxo4tfKmV-w4qW464TrYeA1N44jxTdhYr76KrFmePIx2NugB3P6PgW86UqQZ4uoEs9-_G_phIRRN8B8CcSXfhO-DOKIAhNl07e98ZU1uaXrvR36-p2BLq8XSTQUtwA9AoCFgdPEY20OcDq0UdSmldEFW-u4O_MVOyGegNZKHdtN-Sn1mnvrSNunjaiSqGYUabJ2uEmkXHHF5HRSYrQ== Do you think the +Burn damage nodes are required? Because if they aren't then I can go like this: Spoiler http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7cT2892sqjwtcqlZ88auTP982cAatz7-Cq9sZp6QVXq48kXFivrSp4Suk2z252PwHzbpGji18m6qpleC5ASzogDjaqluPyc64YqvFE0CcXgNTeMqTYjx2mKDOFivvoqsWRUglKDvfDboAdz-jyzpg9todDpSpBni6t0N_EvYTd-_G_phIfzFznEl34TvVvpnoGwWhNl07e4OdEGHdmVNeu9OyCP2FHVKfUd-YEs1ku_wDq2rxQUt035aSCmlxFgn1Q== 7.4% regen and 367% life. EE isn't great in groups. If I play in groups I would get triple curse: ele weakness + temp chains + enfeeble. It sounds like the cap to damage is life because of reflect packs, so going for a bit less damage and more HP may result in a better experience. If I do need more damage I think I would get the burn dmg passives and drop the right connection to the duelist tree. Spoiler http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYY1BQjM_2SF8_VEnnUu8Oud3yL9SPGS4n7cT2892sqjwtcqlZ88auTP982cAatz7-Cq9sZp6QVXq48kXFivrSp4Suk2z252PwHzbpGji18qZXguQEs6IAJKrjaqluOuGKrxRNAnEZhXgNTeOI8dpigzgabFivvoqsWZSg73ydrjboAdz-j2h0Emk6UqQZ4urYTRcc378b-mEhcXkl34TvhNl07WVNeu9HfmBLq8UFLcRYQKAn1SFgdPEY20OcDq0UdSmldEFW-u4O_MVOyGegNZKHdtN-Sn0= Since I wouldn't be needing split arrow for HP regen or ele equilibrium, I would use ranged attack totem + split arrow + chain + blind. If I didn't have koam's I would have a quill rain in weapon swap and have the totem in a 5L chest with faster attacks added on. That way I could swap to quill rain before I cast it to get super fast attacks on the totem. I am still trying to figure out what I would do in between casting explosive arrow. Normally you cast split arrow with life on hit but I will have so much regen that I doubt I would need that. I guess I would just cast more explosive arrow on other mobs XD. I would be using that +2 to bow gems bow that I posted above, along with faster attacks instead of conc effect. Do you know how much damage level 22 explosive arrow does compared to level 20? It isn't listed in the wiki. EDIT: If explosive arrow's damage does continue to follow the pattern as shown on the wiki, it would only gain 12%ish damage from 20 to 22. With that in mind it would probably to be better to just use quill rain since it has 78% more attack speed than my bow. I'd use my bow if it was something like a 25-35% damage boost at level 22. The burn dmg nodes are probably the strongest dps nodes for this build. The burn dmg is 150%*1,6=240% IIRC (increased by 60%). Correct me if I'm wrong. Quill Rain is indeed the better choice. I tried it once with a 5L thicket w/ IAS and +2skills but the ramp up time was just horrible. Edit: I noticed something dangerous and hilarious. Last edited by R4yn0r#7276 on Apr 15, 2013, 10:53:33 AM	Posted by R4yn0r#7276 on Apr 15, 2013, 6:34:46 AM Quote this Post
Guys do you have to take EE? I pplay with a lot of elemental players and I think this would screw them over?? Is it possible not to take EE? is damage reduced badly?	Posted by ktwilson#0463 on Apr 15, 2013, 6:13:09 PM Quote this Post
" ktwilson wrote: Guys do you have to take EE? I pplay with a lot of elemental players and I think this would screw them over?? Is it possible not to take EE? is damage reduced badly? Certainly not, but it boosts your dps dramatically when playing solo. If I played in groups I probably wouldn't take it. IGN: Mibuwolf	Posted by mibuwolf#7946 on Apr 15, 2013, 8:26:11 PM Quote this Post
Can't even use EB when someone has Anger...	Posted by Epsilon2012#3283 on Apr 16, 2013, 3:31:00 AM Quote this Post