Block incin and stuff *Discontinued due to Incinerate nerfs*

My new build will be a Shadow Contagion Trapper
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Dup
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Last edited by yotmato#4991 on Dec 6, 2015, 11:59:05 PM
So on top of Flat DMG nerf we got shadow area nerf, dunno what to get instead now.
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r00teniy wrote:
So on top of Flat DMG nerf we got shadow area nerf, dunno what to get instead now.


Despite popular belief, incinerate damage late-game was already hard to scale, specially in parties, you needed 6link chest and empower 3-4 to do any significant damage compared to other meta skills like SRS.

According to the manifesto they will nerf the %more multiplier per stage, that is an IMMENSE nerf, not only to this build but to every incinerate build in general.

As you said, Shadow area is nerfed by making Sniper way harder to get, forcing us to spend very inefficient points to even consider getting it.

There's no point to think about this skill anymore, GGG is forcing a meta change down our throats, lets just embrace it I guess.

Contagion will be crazy strong, other spells too will probably be strong but need to look at patch notes to know for sure.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Last edited by yotmato#4991 on Dec 7, 2015, 1:30:21 AM
seems like GGG loves nerfing skills that is popular, rather than it being OP.

I seriously have no idea how incinerate at late game is considered OP, many other skills outclass it by a huge margin

oh well, incinerate was fun while it lasted, and a big thanks to yotmato for this build!
It seems this build has diededed :S

ps 100% chaos incinerate still seems viable to me. With all the upgrades to the chaos damage it should be ez to fix dmg deficit.
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Last edited by eragon1111#0889 on Dec 7, 2015, 10:06:12 AM
To be fair, if Incinerate damage hasn't been nerfed TOO BADLY (such as not over 50% overall damage) I can still see this build being very viable. I remember your original posts on this build back when we used temp chains with abyssal cry to slow everything the fuck down. You included a few lines about your build's intent to survive while at least doing consistent but at least mediocre or better damage and you did this through a phenomenal variety of effects without it being overly annoying or expensive to pull off.

I think this intent still applies, just that the damage might suck, but the defense should still be really good. But then again... I know nothing about 2.0 and 2.1 skill tree differences so it might be too early to say that.

That being said, your new shadow trapper build looks extremely awesome and I'm gonna go that this time around... 2.1 is definitely going to be the Patch of Chaos Damage.
Last edited by nakieon#1699 on Dec 7, 2015, 9:34:46 PM
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nakieon wrote:
To be fair, if Incinerate damage hasn't been nerfed TOO BADLY (such as not over 50% overall damage) I can still see this build being very viable. I remember your original posts on this build back when we used temp chains with abyssal cry to slow everything the fuck down. You included a few lines about your build's intent to survive while at least doing consistent but at least mediocre or better damage and you did this through a phenomenal variety of effects without it being overly annoying or expensive to pull off.

I think this intent still applies, just that the damage might suck, but the defense should still be really good. But then again... I know nothing about 2.0 and 2.1 skill tree differences so it might be too early to say that.

That being said, your new shadow trapper build looks extremely awesome and I'm gonna go that this time around... 2.1 is definitely going to be the Patch of Chaos Damage.


We don't know the numerical values of Incinerate's nerf yet, so at this point is all speculation. However when GGG wants to force something out of the meta, they have no remorse in dual-nerfing a gem to the ground like Elemental Proliferation (less multiplier and massive nerf to the radius).

The statement in the development manifesto about reducing the more multiplier per stage AND nerfing the base damage hints towards exactly that, a dual-nerf to damage that will completely cripple the build, since it might not be enough damage to even sustain the ES pool, and then everything falls apart.

Again, its all speculation so we will have to wait and see, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Last edited by yotmato#4991 on Dec 7, 2015, 11:33:35 PM
It is perfectly clear at this point that GGG has decided to utterly destroy Incinerate, the same way they have done with Elemental Proliferation. All hope is vain.
For what its worth, and because some people told me that they will still play this build in 2.1

This is the new passive skill tree

Compared to the current one, we lose 6% projectile damage from the Scion start, 6% damage from the shadow area, since we have to take Elemental Focus instead of Sniper now, which means we also lose 10% Projectile Speed. The Shadow Life nerf also hits us, so we lose 4% life from there. Harrier was also nerfed by 1% cast speed (lol)

So summarized:

-12% damage
-10% projectile speed
-4% increased maximum life
-1% cast speed

And we gain nothing.
Lowest level Hardcore Atziri Kill ~ Level 65 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDB6Haa6U8
Level 100 Tempest HC with self-made and most played build of POE 2.0 ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTUOhqEZ9s
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Last edited by yotmato#4991 on Dec 8, 2015, 8:27:36 PM

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