1.3 Budget detonate dead build, uber killer, deathless, insane clear speed

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Aim_Deep wrote:

What do you think on using a 7L PoH and go hybrid? Would give like 8K life/es. plus POH takes care of your mana.

Detonate dead isn't classed as a spell so you'd lose a considerable amount of damage (around 40% total), that's why I only took elemental and fire damage on the treehttp://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Detonate_Dead

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Aim_Deep wrote:

I watched all your videos and think you have to be a bit too careful for my tastes (or ability lol).

Well this is a budget build, our goal is to make this kill uber and have decent clear speed without needing a 6 link or anything expensive. Some skill/ability has to fill in the gap that a mjolner or mirror build offers

I'm not a great player, I've only been playing this game since around torment started and I started working towards uber a month ago, all I've done is that I've grinded normal atziris for hopes. Doing normal atziris on any characters as long as you don't one shot or facetank everything will teach you a lot

For mapping the palace run would have been considerably safer with the proposed tree + running AA, I was essentially level 81 with no AA in the video, since the Uber stuff doesn't help us at all for mapping

Yeah no spell dam effect hurts a lot but 30 echo and extra gem socket hoping make up DPS. i.e. if you use a 5L PoH you're still one socket ahead of 5L chest. Mainly use PoH for it's awesome mana to run hybrid to tank better.

Either way awesome build dude - This is the cheapest way to do uber I've seen.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Yeah no spell dam effect hurts a lot but 30 echo and extra gem socket hoping make up DPS. i.e. if you use a 5L PoH you're still one socket ahead of 5L chest. Mainly use PoH for it's awesome mana to run hybrid to tank better.

I have a 6L pledge and compared it, it's still a big loss of 40%, but that's mainly because this build doesn't benefit massively from a 6th link or 7th

How viable is this as a first char on a new league?

can it do normal Atziri without a Doryani's? can it work with dual ele wands or scepters or 1 + a shield?

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Fell_MTK wrote:

How viable is this as a first char on a new league?

can it do normal Atziri without a Doryani's? can it work with dual ele wands or scepters or 1 + a shield?

I've not tried either, and I've not leveled as DD, I just respec'd into it. I think leveling as DD is fine, as long as you use flameblast until merciless or so. I'm pretty sure you would be fine without catalysts, but they do add a lot of damage. We get 255% increased damage modifiers from the tree for DD, around 465% with catalysts, it would be 335 with two http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Supreme_Truth I think it would be fine for end game mapping



It's not the best spec for farming normal atziri though that's for sure. Sure you can do it, and without catalysts, but your damage scales with the level of the area, and as atziri is a lvl 70 area our damage isn't stupidly high. I only did normal atziris for practice, I think if I wanted to farm normal atziris for currency I would simply keep the same tree and just switch gems for an incinerate setup for the boss fights. And since the tree isn't optimized for incinerate, you could probably only faceroll normal atziris once you have a relatively high level compared to other builds that can do it much earlier.

I think this build's main strength is its clear speed in maps, especially the high level ones, and uber

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Garmon123 wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Yeah no spell dam effect hurts a lot but 30 echo and extra gem socket hoping make up DPS. i.e. if you use a 5L PoH you're still one socket ahead of 5L chest. Mainly use PoH for it's awesome mana to run hybrid to tank better.

I have a 6L pledge and compared it, it's still a big loss of 40%, but that's mainly because this build doesn't benefit massively from a 6th link or 7th

dangit thought i had a better mouse trap. thanks for 411...


but CI is still an option...

If you want CI, OMG's build is far far superior, but you'd need 6th link for AOE gem since his tree lacks aoe

Main reason we are life based is because we want the skill duration nodes, vaal pact, and the AOE nodes in templar area. And in those areas, there is a lot of life to make the trip there worth it

HI,

It is me again. I made a lil search and have important questions:
1, Does spell echo really works with Detonate Dead? Since DD does'nt count as a spell (not in the keyword list either) and spell echo only works with supported spells.
2, Herald of Ash. Does it really add any dmg?

"The first is additive damage increase, adding X% increased physical damage as fire damage to attacks.

The second is the on-kill effect. Upon killing an enemy other nearby enemies are ignited for the value of "overkill" damage. The on-kill effect of Herald of Ash only applies to enemies killed by attacks. "

Detonate dead is not an attack and we deal no physical damage so nothing can be added as fire.

so im not sure it gains any dmg from any heralds.

Am I wrong?

Anyway AWESOME GDI BUILD!!! GRATS!

Per 1% Quality 0.75% increased Fire Damage on herald of ashe, so 15% increased fire damage if it has 20% quality, it's not important, and I'd only ever use it in the 2x vaal fight. In regards to spell echo, I'm not sure why it works either, since DD isn't a spell, but it does work 100%

I'm respeccing my witch now as I've got another idea, here are some screenshots of tooltip dps and defences that was used in the videos, so you have something to compare to

AOE setup : http://puu.sh/gw2Bu/b2e641ee95.jpg
DPS setup : http://puu.sh/gw2O5/0477d2e7dd.jpg
Defences (with purity of fire up) : http://puu.sh/gw2KM/e88d2e3fb7.jpg