Remove xp penalty's from death

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Fanboys think eveerything is perfect as it is

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You must be a true fanboy if you say theres no desync, its just we cant play. And you must have super cool gear to say its our builds suck if we cant survive on desync

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I think that xp loss is a totall bullshit because almost all my deaths due to desync, I dont know how that could be even argued, I cant understand.

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Game has a lot of flaws, people keep asking about solusions and some people, who live on forums, keep saying everything is fine.

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Game is fun, but it has so many frustrations that now its bring more frustrations than fun, and I dont play like a month now, I wanna play it but not in current version with all its crap, and new content wont bring me back if all that crap still remains in the game. Other games gives me no frustrations and rages like PoE.

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To say that I just played too much and need a break is bullshit, I have been playing NWN2 4 years straight and still play it with pleasure. But can play PoE anymore not cuz its a crap game but cuz of many thing that bring nothing else but rage and frustration

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goetzjam wrote:

@mazul losing a portal doesn't affect solo players pretty much at all. Why remove the penalty only from standard, why not do it from torment or the SC league too? This game isn't a "casual" game the xp penalty is there to stop players from not building proper defenses.

You can't begin to say there won't be downsides, naturally when you don't lose anything from dyeing that is a downside in an ARPG game. I would be open to other ideas aside from removing the penalty, such as pay a fine, resurrect your "body" for 1/2 (or some value) of the XP back, ect.

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Losing a portal means that you lose rares you could have transformed into shards if you are magic finder, because you won't have enough portals.

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As for why only removing penalty only in standard: because it serves no purpose to remove it in Torment. In temporary leagues, casual players are unlikely to reach the levels where the xp penalty actually matters: lv90+.

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By having different sets of penalties aimed at different demographics in different leagues, you retain a higher population than you would otherwise.

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goetzjam wrote:

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As for why only removing penalty only in standard: because it serves no purpose to remove it in Torment. In temporary leagues, casual players are unlikely to reach the levels where the xp penalty actually matters: lv90+.

See this logic is actually flawed there are 2730 characters at level 90+, of those 5 level 100 characters.

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mazul wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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As for why only removing penalty only in standard: because it serves no purpose to remove it in Torment. In temporary leagues, casual players are unlikely to reach the levels where the xp penalty actually matters: lv90+.

See this logic is actually flawed there are 2730 characters at level 90+, of those 5 level 100 characters.

And my assumption is that close to none of the owners to those 2730 characters are casual.

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The_Great_Alex wrote:

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CanHasPants wrote:

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The_Great_Alex wrote:

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The hell are you talking about?

I am neither rich, nor a fanboy, but I sincerely believe that if you cannot progress because of the death penalty, it is your own fault.

I don't even have the slightest idea what you're talking about, claiming that others claim there is no desync. I don't think anybody has claimed such (but I usually only skim unless its a good thread, i.e., I skimmed this one), and if they did that should be a cue to promptly ignore anything they might have to say. About anything. Ever.

Even people who don't experience much desync, admit it happens, and admit that it can kill a player. For the most part though, the situations that can kill a player will also kill them even without desync, or at the very least, maaaaaany other people have learned to cope with it without dying.

That's not to say that desync should be considered acceptable, but it is the situation we have, and you'd be a fool to try and outright ignore it. So.. yeah, it can take control out of your hands sometimes (but even then the devs dis build the game around alt+f4.. but that's another topic >.>), but for the most part death can be avoided if you aren't lazy (and I for one am lazy and die a lot ^-^).

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goetzjam wrote:

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mazul wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

See this logic is actually flawed there are 2730 characters at level 90+, of those 5 level 100 characters.

And my assumption is that close to none of the owners to those 2730 characters are casual.

Guess casual has a different meaning for different people.

Either way the point will still remain that it would be "unfair" to remove it for one SC league and not another. You can't have it both ways, either no death penalty at all or the same for both.

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CanHasPants wrote:

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The_Great_Alex wrote:

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The hell are you talking about?

I am neither rich, nor a fanboy, but I sincerely believe that if you cannot progress because of the death penalty, it is your own fault.

I don't even have the slightest idea what you're talking about, claiming that others claim there is no desync. I don't think anybody has claimed such (but I usually only skim unless its a good thread, i.e., I skimmed this one), and if they did that should be a cue to promptly ignore anything they might have to say. About anything. Ever.

Even people who don't experience much desync, admit it happens, and admit that it can kill a player. For the most part though, the situations that can kill a player will also kill them even without desync, or at the very least, maaaaaany other people have learned to cope with it without dying.

That's not to say that desync should be considered acceptable, but it is the situation we have, and you'd be a fool to try and outright ignore it. So.. yeah, it can take control out of your hands sometimes (but even then the devs dis build the game around alt+f4.. but that's another topic >.>), but for the most part death can be avoided if you aren't lazy (and I for one am lazy and die a lot ^-^).