[2.0] Kinetic Blast Wander | Physical and Elemental | HC Viable [BOTW S4E6]

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shukolade wrote:

how do you generate frenzy charges?

Use the skill Frenzy.

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Narna wrote:

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shukolade wrote:

how do you generate frenzy charges?

Use the skill Frenzy.

Maybe we're supposed to use Blood Rage? CWDT - Increased Duration - Immortal Call - Blood Rage? With Daresso's chest, ofc.

We really need a fully updated skill and gear setup <.< Please get time to play soon, Oos :D

Edit: is Depth Perception still a high level node?

what about the gems linked to KB ? are they the same ? and what about auras? what should we use now ?

not trying to steal the topic or anything, but im currently playing in the tempest league with this char and i've what i believe to be one of the highest lvl'd wanders atm



build = https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Smonkz (cant show the jewels otherwise)

5.1k life with 26k frenzy dps /// 13k gmp kinetic blast dps, still a lot of room for improvement.

for auras wrath + herald of thunder seems to be giving me way more dps than hatred, even with a 200pdps wand

mana is still an issue if i dont spam mana pots i wont be attacking as fast, i may need to get more mana leech / mana leech rate nodes

for bandits i went with oak / skill point / alira

for the links i went with kb - gmp (lmp ealier) - wed - faster attacks - pcoc

i know i can go curse on hit assassins mark but i went for the safer route.

you can go with curse on hit assassins mark and roll increased crit dmg /// life leech as the 5th link


so far had 0 issues with reflect (be it thornflesh / rare mobs)
if oos wants i can remove this post.

SMonkz/OOS, how do you feel about using Thief's Torment? I'm wearing 3 Elreon mods and still having mana issues, partially due to having a low pool while running Hatred/HoI. I'm in Tempest, level 61. Currently have Witch Mana/HP nodes and Spirit Void, plus mana leech on gloves and a +2 mana/hit jewel. KB so far is alright (only 4l right now) but I can't seem to sustain Frenzy or PS.

Was also considering Barrage (to synergise with HP/mana on hit) for single target, but I feel like it keeps me in place too long, especially against some of the Act 4 bosses.

This build looks dead with the nerfed mana leech or is it just me ?

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EzBreesy wrote:

This build looks dead with the nerfed mana leech or is it just me ?

Been playing around with it and mana issues are such a pain. Becomes decent vs packs, but single target is a no-no unless you can kill quick / lots of mana potions.

For now i run 2 heralds. My mate runs hatred. With 50% mana reserved i have slight mana issues.
Sorted it by having this flask. Can use it 7 times, before it is empty :)

OK guys, I've been a little busy with other things + playing Tempest, but I got on to HC today and respecced my wander to test things out.

I made a little video here:
http://youtu.be/Uue3LqYweYM

I also updated the main topic properly, everything should be there but if not, then reply and I'll try my best to answer you.

Wander looks INSANE in 2.0, I almost doubled my damage. It;s so nuts that it's probably worth dropping a gem for life gain on hit or something, you don't need that much damage.

Now to answer everyone.

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Crimm wrote:

What's the best way to avoid reflect, now that Ondar's Guille has been destroyed?

Roll a good Jade flask and have good evasion gear.
Use Enduring Cry self cast and use a CWDT + IC setup.

Reflect isn't actually as bad as it was on beta though. While leveling my gems I crit in to an off-screen Thronflesh pack and didn't even lose half my HP. This is without Ondar's/Arrow Dancing.
After that I used my Jade flask and kept firing to test, it's fine.

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PolleyPocket wrote:

Just a heads up your skill tree where u mark your leveling full build, optional, high lvl and such skills w/ paint is out of date.

Fixed.
http://i.imgur.com/g2w4dSl.jpg

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PolleyPocket wrote:

BTW u say this isn't HC viable anymore? If there anything which should be changed to make it viable?

I don't remember saying that, but if I did then it was an over-reaction to different changes. The build is still viable. We get more damage and just have to shuffle our defenses around a little. All builds lost the free CWDT+IC but we can still make it work.

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DjNanos wrote:

I wanna get to this, but there are a lot of point added, where should i remove pts ? and tell me if im missing something or if i added something that is not needed, thanks

Spoiler

http://cb.poedb.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_JpVh4uaBy71VS4w2Ax4fQQYjtUjz6ioLcFJtbDY9napsjGKs7LCMC7l853To1psmMgGyGc96zeoFtY2_1CMwcd2oS3j665LzXkVRR974pHjB1TB8jX0j9k2SDkgRlgcelS7w1UlRf8bBxfrv_GRKmqIEoqPB85UgLR_FKPZbWbxMswQHg9tVxjpYaxe86sBUakMI9IIeFLCaYcJzc3CfiPbnlwbEorvj_rp9ddN-yNzBSf4dIG5QMA3RIurDOio4GYr7CfbaGo9d8nDVidNjQ9sLznAJoGznP3M6QudUJP3_3g==

Your tree is alright, but check the first post for how I would build it.

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mrmarcus wrote:

I was thinking of this variant of the tree for Tempest league


It comes with 149%hp and vaal pact. I took the 40% piercing nodes and replaced the piercing gem with life leech. Oh and the tree goes to around 105 points. 115+ points is not realistic for most people.

Yeah looks fine. Good luck.

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shukolade wrote:

how do you generate frenzy charges?

Frenzy is the best single target now, and easy to keep up charges.

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Radagastt wrote:

If I use a Daresso's chest, can I skip a CWDT taken set-up?

CWDT info in the guide uses Enduring Cry and Immortal Call, but CWDT no longer casts Enduring Cry and a Daresso's takes care of charges for me.

Use CWDT + IC + Inc Duration. Daresso's will generate your Endurance Charges for you.

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DjNanos wrote:

what about the gems linked to KB ? are they the same ? and what about auras? what should we use now ?

Same gem links, just swap Power Siphon for Frenzy.
Hatred + HoIce are by far the best auras now. The shatter on-kill is nuts.

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Smonkz wrote:

not trying to steal the topic or anything, but im currently playing in the tempest league with this char and i've what i believe to be one of the highest lvl'd wanders atm

Gear

build = https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Smonkz (cant show the jewels otherwise)

5.1k life with 26k frenzy dps /// 13k gmp kinetic blast dps, still a lot of room for improvement.

for auras wrath + herald of thunder seems to be giving me way more dps than hatred, even with a 200pdps wand

mana is still an issue if i dont spam mana pots i wont be attacking as fast, i may need to get more mana leech / mana leech rate nodes

for bandits i went with oak / skill point / alira

for the links i went with kb - gmp (lmp ealier) - wed - faster attacks - pcoc

i know i can go curse on hit assassins mark but i went for the safer route.

you can go with curse on hit assassins mark and roll increased crit dmg /// life leech as the 5th link


so far had 0 issues with reflect (be it thornflesh / rare mobs)
if oos wants i can remove this post.

Yeah nice gear and build variation.
It's interesting that Wrath + Thunder gives you more tooltip dps, but I;m guessing that's mostly because of the WED gem use.
I'd argue that Hatred+Ice is better because of the on-kill shatter, it adds so much to the clear speed of this build.
Also, tooltip dps isn't everything, especially with ele vs phys. Lots of monsters are ele resist, and higher physical damage will crush armour and wreck packs.

If you're having leech issues then swap to Phys Proj Damage instead of WED.

Test it out, but do what works for you.

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JangoMV wrote:

SMonkz/OOS, how do you feel about using Thief's Torment? I'm wearing 3 Elreon mods and still having mana issues, partially due to having a low pool while running Hatred/HoI. I'm in Tempest, level 61. Currently have Witch Mana/HP nodes and Spirit Void, plus mana leech on gloves and a +2 mana/hit jewel. KB so far is alright (only 4l right now) but I can't seem to sustain Frenzy or PS.

Was also considering Barrage (to synergise with HP/mana on hit) for single target, but I feel like it keeps me in place too long, especially against some of the Act 4 bosses.

Mana leech kinda sucks early on. Try to prioritise it on gear, get Spirit Void and maybe even Mind Drinker too.
Thief's Torment sucks honestly, it will fix your mana problems but you get so much out of good jewelry it's not work it. Maybe consider it for leveling, or find some Elreon jewelry.

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EzBreesy wrote:

This build looks dead with the nerfed mana leech or is it just me ?

Nope, get higher physical damage (+leech) and you're fine, even single target.

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sultangurde wrote:

For now i run 2 heralds. My mate runs hatred. With 50% mana reserved i have slight mana issues.
Sorted it by having this flask. Can use it 7 times, before it is empty :)

The flask charge change is awesome, good idea to use it until you have good enough leech.

Power Siphon culls even Act Bosses, is that a bug or something? Because it's quite a bonus. xD