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If a build works on low level maps, it's going to work on adjacent level maps. If you honestly want me to come back to make a video on this, the Same thing will happen. Just like with all my other posts. I'm sorry to say I can't give you a Video on content you should know it can or can't clear. This build isn't made for everyone, it's using the most under-rated element and trying to give it justice.
On the contrary, i'm saying that it DOESN'T work. If you are going to make ridiculous claims then the onus is on YOU to back up those claims, ESPECIALLY when you are making a so called guide that people who don't know any better are going to follow. Would you like me to post a video of this build NOT being able to clear maps the way you claim? That's just idiotic.
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If you don't like this post or seem to honestly think it's misleading Go contact a Forum Mod and tell him to close it. You've come back to this post on numerous occasions to state your aggressive opinion most people choose no to listen to. You've stated it 3+ Times now, why are you going on and on about it?
Of course most people chose not to listen, they didn't want to believe they had just wasted a week or more of their time on a build that doesn't work. That's hardly proof of viability of the build. In fact, now that more people are hitting the later stages of the game, notice how many people are posting they are having all sorts of problems with it.
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So the build doesn't work for you, Sorry it didn't fit your play style, If you want me to comment back on your posts Give me Reasons Why it can't do 72 Maps. Explain to me what scenarios will kill me. Please inform me that you're not a troll and you want Serious information. However, if you expect me to come back to a game that I don't enjoy just to make a video for you after you've trolled my post numerous times, then please don't bother. I don't want to waste your or mine anymore.
Yes, my "playstyle" is wanting to progress past level 70. You might want to mention that your playstyle doesn't include that, which is precisely my point. And you were asked to make the video back when you were still playing, by people other than myself. You didn't make one then and i had no doubts you wouldn't make one now, since i'm positive no such video could be made. Posting the video is for your own credibility and as a courtesy to people you lead to believe would be able to play end game with your build. However, simply making an obnoxious claim that a 69 witch can clear 72 maps with a low health build, with an element you claim yourself is underpowered, with no totems/skeletons, in under 10 min, just defies basic logic. So no, asking for a video is not unreasonable and sure as hell isn't trolling.
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I sincerely apologize to the masses simply seeking out information for having to deal with this.
It's disingenuous statements like that that really do make me laugh. It's abundantly clear now that you posted two half-hearted, untested "guides" for the sole purpose of getting a quick grab for subscribers/viewers for your stream. Personally, i think you quit PoE because neither one of those builds was viable past 70 and you didn't want to bother starting over again. Either way, don't pretend like you are trying to disseminate accurate information to the masses with either one of your guides.
Mordor style. :-)
2024 Activo.
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Posted bySamain#6430on Feb 22, 2013, 8:12:07 AM
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By Stating The build doesn't work you're pretty much saying the Element Fire Doesn't work OR you're playing a much too aggressive play style for this build.
You are 100% wrong.
You dont play with ignite, or if you are playing a bit with it (Lol noob-trap chance to ignite), it will be useless.
If people could say your build suck, they don't say fire builds suck. Because your build is a poor fire build.
How much crit chance do you have? How much critical damage do you have? And you use a Searing Touch? Really?
Why the hell are you using Enfeeble when Temporal chain is way better? Are you facetanking mobs?
Yours fireballs are dealing 35% of their initial damage with your 4L. You don't crit. You don't use skeleton totem. Yes, it's a bit suspicious you are telling us you clear map 70+. The only video you have is a The Ledge farm where you were 60. Woot.
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Posted byKeyen#4575on Feb 22, 2013, 8:12:45 AM
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keyen your a bad player already enfeeble is way better then temporal, why cuz with temporal you only slow movement and attack speed, enfeeble actually reduces all damage that target does by a shit ton, you can face tank with enfeeble not temporal, sure certain situations it is better to use temporal but over all temporal is a worse curse
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Posted byakamea#1496on Feb 22, 2013, 8:15:28 AM
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Pohx wrote:
By Stating The build doesn't work you're pretty much saying the Element Fire Doesn't work OR you're playing a much too aggressive play style for this build.
You are 100% wrong.
You dont play with ignite, or if you are playing a bit with it (Lol noob-trap chance to ignite), it will be useless.
If people could say your build suck, they don't say fire builds suck. Because your build is a poor fire build.
How much crit chance do you have? How much critical damage do you have? And you use a Searing Touch? Really?
Why the hell are you using Enfeeble when Temporal chain is way better? Are you facetanking mobs?
Yours fireballs are dealing 35% of their initial damage with your 4L. You don't crit. You don't use skeleton totem. Yes, it's a bit suspicious you are telling us you clear map 70+. The only video you have is a The Ledge farm where you were 60. Woot.
You are also misunderstanding what a Template is for, If you're claiming this build is bad Please tell me in what ways it's bad. I would like Precise information just as I've told the others. Don't just say it doesn't use totems so it's bad
5L searing touch if you read comments, ( It's a fun build that doesn't require you to have to buy an insane weapon for end game? )
I'm running a near full Ignite build?
Dunno I don't have much crit at my current level, it's not needed right now.
Enfeeble & Temporal chains are 2 Completely different curses, One saves you from burst. One can prevent burst. When running 2 AoE increases you can curse an entire room before anything moves, thus with enfeeble everything already has reduced damage. It's player opinion, not better or worse
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Posted byPohx#1588on Feb 22, 2013, 8:17:01 AM
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Pohx wrote:
If you're claiming this build is bad Please tell me in what ways it's bad.
It's easy:
-Your ignite suck (because chance to ignite suck)
-Chance to ignite is a noob trap (ignite is 33% of the damages dealt, and a non critical strike, especially with LMP + fork is doing nothing)
-Your ignite suck (again, but i have to tell it, because you think it's fine this way)
-Fire rely on critical, and you think you "don't need critical" before lvl 75+ (Your template with 91 points has 110% crit chance and 60% crit damage).
-You don't use temporal chain (oh wait, kitting tool + 50% ignite duration, sounds bad, better get facetanking curse).
-Your ignite suck (maybe this time?).
Even with pyromaniac + searing touch, your ignite is doing... 27%/s of a REGULAR non LMP/fork fireball.
My ignite (i'm lvl 68), even with GMP (and i added the 50% less damage in the maths), is doing 350%/s of this same regular non LMP/fork fireball, because i have 530% critical damage and i use also critical weakness (flammability/temporal chain/critical weakness).
13* more ignite damages. 13. And 50% more duration.
Guess what happens when i ignite something with elemental proliferation. Guess what happens when YOU ignite something with elemental proliferation?
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I'm running a near full Ignite build?
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Posted byKeyen#4575on Feb 22, 2013, 8:37:38 AM
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-You don't use temporal chain (oh wait, kitting tool + 50% ignite duration, sounds bad, better get facetanking curse).
I don't need more damage, That's why I use enfeeble if needed, i'm running 50%+ Chance to ignite. Please stop trolling
I'm using Pierce, I don't need Proliferation. Please get your facts correct before trolling
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-Chance to ignite is a noob trap (ignite is 33% of the damages dealt, and a non critical strike, especially with LMP + fork is doing nothing)
Since when has ignite been 33% of the damage dealt? Please inform me of this information.
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Posted byPohx#1588on Feb 22, 2013, 8:49:24 AM
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Pohx wrote:
Since when has ignite been 33% of the damage dealt? Please inform me of this information.
Per second. Sorry!
Change nothing.
And what about edit the "guide" if you changed so much things?
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Posted byKeyen#4575on Feb 22, 2013, 8:58:14 AM
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Keyen wrote:
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Pohx wrote:
Since when has ignite been 33% of the damage dealt? Please inform me of this information.
Per second. Sorry!
Change nothing.
And what about edit the "guide" if you changed so much things?
yeah look the same:
1000 hit add 333 damage from ignite
1000 hit add 1960 damage from ignite (33%+150% from pasives/second*4seconds)
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And what about edit the "guide" if you changed so much things?
The only edition this guide need is add the "patch legend". That player actually quit the game, so stop bump a non-update guide.
2024 Activo.
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Posted bySamain#6430on Feb 22, 2013, 9:39:31 AM
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Keyen wrote:
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Pohx wrote:
Since when has ignite been 33% of the damage dealt? Please inform me of this information.
Per second. Sorry!
Change nothing.
And what about edit the "guide" if you changed so much things?
I never said I changed alot, I simply removed the crit for my level. People asked for gear, that's what the current gear was for my level. I never said it was the best in slot lol. The basics of the guide hasen't changed..
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Posted byPohx#1588on Feb 22, 2013, 9:44:28 AM
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Samain wrote:
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Keyen wrote:
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Pohx wrote:
Since when has ignite been 33% of the damage dealt? Please inform me of this information.
Per second. Sorry!
Change nothing.
And what about edit the "guide" if you changed so much things?
yeah look the same:
1000 hit add 333 damage from ignite
1000 hit add 1960 damage from ignite (33%+150% from pasives/second*4seconds)
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And what about edit the "guide" if you changed so much things?
The only edition this guide need is add the "patch legend". That player actually quit the game, so stop bump a non-update guide.
Edited Title, Never thought about it lol
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Posted byPohx#1588on Feb 22, 2013, 9:46:56 AM
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