[1.3]KuteKitteh's Tanky Incinerate, +100k DPS. Fast clear, affordable, Atziri viable!

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Paradigmdeez wrote:

This build seems like a nightmare for a first build in a new league. It's way too expensive in both currency and mana. I would love to run a build like this, but it's just not viable unless you have a decent amount of currency to spend.

The only two expensive components are the scepter and the CoD, both of which can be substituted out until end-game where you actually need then + you have the currency to buy them.

It's pretty new-league viable.

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Nahkalaukku wrote:

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Paradigmdeez wrote:

This build seems like a nightmare for a first build in a new league. It's way too expensive in both currency and mana. I would love to run a build like this, but it's just not viable unless you have a decent amount of currency to spend.

Well i just started torment few days ago and im currently following this build. Lvl 63 atm and doing great. Only piece of gear you rly need (in "end game") is Cloack of Defiance and it costs like 2-3ex.
First i took EB and Shadow area, and had 0 mana problems. Im running Clarity, Discipline and HoL. Killing everything fast but need to care about some phys dmg like spikes from those porcupines (or whatever they are). Currently my only defence against phys dmg is block and AA.

Good to know. I'm going to start leveling a character for this build and see how it goes.

Started as templar, imo best class to start with this build considering all the -mana cost to skills and other stuff u got from him at the begining, started yesterday and currently am lvl 57, runing clarity, herald of ice, herald of thunder and a lvl 13 aa without reduced mana and have no issues at all,my items are crap and again have no issues at all, my advice start with templar, take all the begining templar nodes exept the life ones then branch out to witch to take eb start using aa and from then pick the stuff u actually need like life and mana regen and ofc branch out so u dont have to pick several crappy stat nodes when u hit high lvls.

You mentioned this build can Immunity to elemental reflect, how does it work? Do I miss some specific passive node or gear?

And for Helmet,,which one do you think is better? will armour work better than es?

Thanks

I agree with starting as Templar. Lv54 now and finishing up A2M in Torment... funny thing though is that flame totem is better than incinerate currently, both at around 500 dps... a lot lower numbers that what I'm used to for other builds, but still melts through packs... comparable to maybe 3000 dps lightning tendrils.
Completely self found with terrible gear, but still pretty good.



Also doing a similar build in bloodlines, where I'm taking things much more cautiously, with capped res most of the time and not doing dumb stuff like entering lv58 zones at lv47.

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alphalex wrote:

You mentioned this build can Immunity to elemental reflect, how does it work? Do I miss some specific passive node or gear?

And for Helmet,

,which one do you think is better? will armour work better than es?

Thanks

Arctic Armour at level 20 with 26% increased buff nodes gives -203 fire damage per hit.
You should have 75% fire resist normally.
Reflect enemies reflect 18%.

That means you can deal up to 4.5k fire damage per hit without hurting yourself. Because Incinerate deals many small hits, the fire component of Incinerate will never hurt you. You will only reflect a small bit from HoI and HoT, and that small bit can easily be offset with 1% leech from a Doryani's Catalyst or an Atziri's Promise.


I would go with the ES helmet because the mana scales better than armor.

Wow, this is a great build. Nice and tanky for sure! I respeced by crit ice-spear witch into your build and so far I'm super happy with my decision. I am reusing most of the gear from the ice spear build other than changing out my wand and doryani belt. Running a CoD, Geofri's Crest (need the res) for now and I'm messing around with some Windscream boots to dual curse, elemental weakness and warlord's mark. Also re-using my Rathpith shield.

Typical CWDT setup in the boots, lightning warp setup in the shield, artic armor in the wand (for now, out of chroms).

I have a Vertex mask I'd love to throw in but to be honest I don't even need the extra mana. My rings/amulet all have about 50% mana regen so even running AA, tempest shield, HoI, HoT and using incinerate my mana doesn't go down. I don't even need to run my clarity gem! How funny is that? With all that I have about 1600 free mana, 4600 life at lvl 89.

My tooltip DPS is 5857.3 with my auras running with 14.1 casts per second.

I really felt like I had hit a wall with my crit ice-spear build, especially with the crit nerf I just wasn't able to do the DPS I needed for the squishiness. With this build so far my witch has become fun again!

Can you explain me why a catalyst is good for any spellbuild? it has no spell dmg only elemental dmg increase which for some reason doesnt get updated on the tooltip of the skills
its like atm with my wand-shield i got 5kdmg on inci, with cata it drops a lot, is it like hidden stat on the tooltip i dont get it if the only reason buying it is the 1% lifeleach and lv20 gem, its not worth it imo

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DjNanos wrote:

Can you explain me why a catalyst is good for any spellbuild? it has no spell dmg only elemental dmg increase which for some reason doesnt get updated on the tooltip of the skills
its like atm with my wand-shield i got 5kdmg on inci, with cata it drops a lot, is it like hidden stat on the tooltip i dont get it if the only reason buying it is the 1% lifeleach and lv20 gem, its not worth it imo

Spell damage boosts the damage of Incinerate and Added Chaos damage but not the Heralds.

Elemental damage boosts the damage of Incinerate and the Heralds but not the Added Chaos.

If you're running Added Chaos and you don't have both heralds running, a really good rare wand will out-DPS it.

Once you finish the build, however, Doryani gives a pretty huge DPS boost to this build (which does show up on the tooltip DPS) but the 1% leech is the real kicker.

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KuteKitteh wrote:

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DjNanos wrote:

Can you explain me why a catalyst is good for any spellbuild? it has no spell dmg only elemental dmg increase which for some reason doesnt get updated on the tooltip of the skills
its like atm with my wand-shield i got 5kdmg on inci, with cata it drops a lot, is it like hidden stat on the tooltip i dont get it if the only reason buying it is the 1% lifeleach and lv20 gem, its not worth it imo

Spell damage boosts the damage of Incinerate and Added Chaos damage but not the Heralds.

Elemental damage boosts the damage of Incinerate and the Heralds but not the Added Chaos.

If you're running Added Chaos and you don't have both heralds running, a really good rare wand will out-DPS it.

Once you finish the build, however, Doryani gives a pretty huge DPS boost to this build (which does show up on the tooltip DPS) but the 1% leech is the real kicker.

Okay, to sum up, ive got ACD and both heralds on geofris is there a better supp other than ACD?
atm im running Incin + FC + Echo + LMP + ACD