[1.3]CoC Banana Toss ADDED [1.3]vid for Uber Atziri 1 mil single target DPS ~QUITTING SOON

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Azze28 wrote:

So im trying to theorycraft a mana version of this for the torment league as i have most currency to afford a start. No Acuitys so.
I took a close look at fyndels mana version and altered it to fit this build.
This is what i came up with:

Lioneye's Paws RRBG with +1 Gems: Reduced Mana - Empower - Discipline - Herald of Ice

Gloves RRRG: Reduced Mana - Blood Magic - Haste - Purity of Fire

Shield RRR: CwDT - EC - IC

Helm RBBB: Reduced Mana - lvl 20 Discipline - Herald of Thunder - Rightous Fire (or Vaal Disci if using an unset ring for RF)

Dagger: Whireling Blades - Bloodrage - Enhance

This should leave us enough free mana to attack properly. ST is just level 10/20q so the mana cost is lower. 2% mana-leech an the gear are probably although very helpful.


What do u get, what do u lose compared to BM version:
1) We lose a lot of STR on the tree, luckily the boots and Doryani's Invation comes with it. I took one +30node, have to try if i need it or not.
2) dex is no longer a problem
3) we gain a lot of defences: My version has 190%ES, the BM one 105%. In torment its harder to get a gg ES shield/helmet so I think this comes in very handy. Although we have a little armor/evasion as bonus.
4) We get 24% allres from tree which helps gearing in torment.
5) Sustaining RF will be much harder with my version. We cant use Shav-ring and got more ES which means more burn dmg.
6) We get a bit more bonus to auras.

Right now im still leveling my char and trying to 6L my shavs. Think i will switch to this build at about lvl 88. The passive tree is for lvl 95, but there are some nodes which can specced later without bigger problems.

Finally tree:

http://poeurl.com/zbed77i


I really hope to get some feedback on this. I dont wanna waste 70 regrets :)

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Hey, just checked out your tree. Looks good , im playing torment too , should hit me up. Only concerns is whether you proc your spells enough and most important is your blood rage, the issue with bloodrage with this is you may think your not even leeching , leeching becomes an issue as bloodrage will sometimes outdamage your leech. well any other questions or just wanna chat on torment. IGN: ConsumedByDepravity

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unholycube wrote:

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Hey, just checked out your tree. Looks good , im playing torment too , should hit me up. Only concerns is whether you proc your spells enough and most important is your blood rage, the issue with bloodrage with this is you may think your not even leeching , leeching becomes an issue as bloodrage will sometimes outdamage your leech. well any other questions or just wanna chat on torment. IGN: ConsumedByDepravity

Hi I am also planning going a mana version of ur great banana toss in torment. Concerned about one thing, same as @Azze28, I dont have acuitys, do u think it necessary to grab VP? And if so would the 1% leach from either belt or weapon be enough to sustain dmg taken + damage from bloodrage? Cheers :P

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I'm currently playin it and trying new things out in torment as well without acuity. And i have to say, i do not think it is necessary at all to take VP. I take the Zealoth's Oath instead , with it + buff nodes, vitality will already be more than sufficient for blood rage. I do not recommend Vaal Pact for banana toss at any point.

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nit3mare wrote:

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unholycube wrote:

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Hey, just checked out your tree. Looks good , im playing torment too , should hit me up. Only concerns is whether you proc your spells enough and most important is your blood rage, the issue with bloodrage with this is you may think your not even leeching , leeching becomes an issue as bloodrage will sometimes outdamage your leech. well any other questions or just wanna chat on torment. IGN: ConsumedByDepravity

Hi I am also planning going a mana version of ur great banana toss in torment. Concerned about one thing, same as @Azze28, I dont have acuitys, do u think it necessary to grab VP? And if so would the 1% leach from either belt or weapon be enough to sustain dmg taken + damage from bloodrage? Cheers :P

I'm currently playin it and trying new things out in torment as well without acuity. And i have to say, i do not think it is necessary at all to take VP. I take the Zealoth's Oath instead , with it + buff nodes, vitality will already be more than sufficient for blood rage. I do not recommend Vaal Pact for banana toss at any point.

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GnGEmpire wrote:

Very cool build it seems, tho insanely expensive.
How viable is it for endgame mapping and pushing to level 100 I would like to know, since as I can you have very little %ES from the passive tree. What is your current ES pool with this gear?
Can elemental reflect packs be survived if you forget to activate your flasks?

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Azze28 wrote:

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nit3mare wrote:

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unholycube wrote:

Hi I am also planning going a mana version of ur great banana toss in torment. Concerned about one thing, same as @Azze28, I dont have acuitys, do u think it necessary to grab VP? And if so would the 1% leach from either belt or weapon be enough to sustain dmg taken + damage from bloodrage? Cheers :P

I'm currently playin it and trying new things out in torment as well without acuity. And i have to say, i do not think it is necessary at all to take VP. I take the Zealoth's Oath instead , with it + buff nodes, vitality will already be more than sufficient for blood rage. I do not recommend Vaal Pact for banana toss at any point.

Hm will think about Zealoth's + Vitality. Im lvl 82 now and will probably lvl unti 86/87 before converting to the build. I am althogh still missing a helmet, gloves and juwelry.

Edit: I could switch Empower to Vitality. Probably have to just try it once i got the missing levels. 4 Regrets are worth the try.


Update: I just respecced at lvl 84, just couldn't see anymore boring flameblast leveling shit. I have quite some underleveld gems and it already works great!


1) Zealoth's + Vitality is 100% the way to go in Mana-Version without Acuity. Had no chance to sustain Bloodrage without it, but even lvl 1 vitality (didn't have a leveld one) was enough to completly take the costs.

2) Right now lvl 8 clarity is enough to sustain mana pool. Probably have to get 1-2 levels more when i get more attackspeed, but lvl 20 is not needed at all.

Im really looking forward to lvl 20/20 gems and the next 5-8 skillpoints. Missing some important stuff right now at lvl 84 in mana version. Although i had to spent 99% of my currency for 6-linking my Shavs, I have absolutly crappy juwelry and not optimal colours on my gloves(need 4 off) yet.

The -40%movement speed by Lioneye's Pawns is the only annoying thing really.