VictorDoom's 2h Staff Cycloner(Uber killer) [Updated 1.3]

Hi,

I started leveling thing build in bloodlines but I had couple of questions I hope you could answer.

- Why Unwavering stance? Doesn't it really limit your gear choices? What do you exactly need it for? why no IR to go with it?

- Why do you skip the life leech/LGoH nodes next to Unwavering stance?

- Speaking of life leech and LGoH you don't seem to have any, why so? Isn't LGoH really good with cyclone? Do you rely solely on flasks for hp recovery or is you regen so high that you manage?

- With budget gear should I go for life leech/LGoh on gem or in passive tree?

- Isn't the marauders first node worth to take really?


I really like the melee staff builds, so thanks for making this :)
Last edited by ciryous#1654 on Dec 20, 2014, 4:43:56 PM
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ciryous wrote:
Hi,

I started leveling thing build in bloodlines but I had couple of questions I hope you could answer.

- Why Unwavering stance? Doesn't it really limit your gear choices? What do you exactly need it for? why no IR to go with it?

- Why do you skip the life leech/LGoH nodes next to Unwavering stance?

- Speaking of life leech and LGoH you don't seem to have any, why so? Isn't LGoH really good with cyclone? Do you rely solely on flasks for hp recovery or is you regen so high that you manage?

- With budget gear should I go for life leech/LGoh on gem or in passive tree?

- Isn't the marauders first node worth to take really?


I really like the melee staff builds, so thanks for making this :)


Hey, sure:

-Because its on the way to the marauder area, and for 1 point its totally worth getting, you will mostly use armor gear anyway(not enough dex for eva stuff), and it still is useful even with cyclone, sometimes you can get stunned in between cyclones, its not a problem and it rarely happens but its kind of annoying when it does happen and just 1 point to avoid it is worth it. I didnt take IR because its not worth the point investment, you dont really need any armor with the cast when damage taken setup.

-I have 13% life leech from bloodrage linked with enchance, its more than enough for anything, i dont use LGOH on this character because its kind of bad with staffs and i dont need it since i have acuities, its not necesarry even without acuities. I rely on the life leech from bloodrage and life regen, i barely use life flasks.


-You wont need to use the life leech or lgoh gem/gear, you get enough life leech from leveling bloodrage, 10% life leech at level 20.

-Nope, 16 flat life translates to roughly 50 actual life, which is nothing when you will rock 7.5k without a kaoms.
I carve and sell real animal skulls, check out my work here: https://www.instagram.com/victorseiche/
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World first Uber Atziri as 2h and 2h RT build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1058950
Highest level char in Closed Beta, Wytchfindergeneral
Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Dec 20, 2014, 5:45:23 PM
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VictorDoom wrote:
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ciryous wrote:
Hi,

I started leveling thing build in bloodlines but I had couple of questions I hope you could answer.

- Why Unwavering stance? Doesn't it really limit your gear choices? What do you exactly need it for? why no IR to go with it?

- Why do you skip the life leech/LGoH nodes next to Unwavering stance?

- Speaking of life leech and LGoH you don't seem to have any, why so? Isn't LGoH really good with cyclone? Do you rely solely on flasks for hp recovery or is you regen so high that you manage?

- With budget gear should I go for life leech/LGoh on gem or in passive tree?

- Isn't the marauders first node worth to take really?


I really like the melee staff builds, so thanks for making this :)


Hey, sure:

-Because its on the way to the marauder area, and for 1 point its totally worth getting, you will mostly use armor gear anyway(not enough dex for eva stuff), and it still is useful even with cyclone, sometimes you can get stunned in between cyclones, its not a problem but and it rarely happens but its kind of annoying when it does happen and just 1 point to avoid it is worth it. I didnt take IR because its not worth the point investment, you dont really need any armor with the cast when damage taken setup.

-I have 13% life leech from bloodrage linked with enchance, its more than enough for anything, i dont use LGOH on this character because its kind of bad with staffs and i dont need it since i have acuities, its not necesarry even without acuities. I rely on the life leech from bloodrage and life regen, i barely use life flasks.


-You wont need to, you get enough life leech from leveling bloodrage, 10% life leech at level 20.

-Nope, 16 flat life translates to roughly 50 actual life, which is nothing when you will rock 7.5k without a kaoms.



Hey! thanks for replying so fast, I feel like a such a dumb ass for forgetting the life leech from BM, I haven't really used it in my previous builds so it kinda slipped my mind. Thanks for the answers and merry xmas :P
Trying out this build on Bloodlines. Let's see how it goes.
Thanks for making this guide having a blast playing melee for the first time.

I have a question, How much DPS and health will I need to do normal Atziri with this build?

Thanks again!
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Brkus wrote:
Thanks for making this guide having a blast playing melee for the first time.

I have a question, How much DPS and health will I need to do normal Atziri with this build?

Thanks again!

about 25k dps and 7k life is enough to do her pretty easily

remember to use light and fire resistance auras and flasks for her
I carve and sell real animal skulls, check out my work here: https://www.instagram.com/victorseiche/
https://www.facebook.com/victorseicheart/
World first Uber Atziri as 2h and 2h RT build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1058950
Highest level char in Closed Beta, Wytchfindergeneral
Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Dec 24, 2014, 5:29:28 AM
Im lvl 68 at bloodlines atm with 5,1k hp and 9,5k dps with this build.

I wanted to ask what's your reasoning for leveling up CWDT?
Lots of builds seem to use either lvl 1 or maybe lvl 4 CWDT, what's the upside/reason to level it up like you did?

Also I wanted to return back to my earlier posts question about unwavering stance, I feel like I never get stunned anyway and I have 14% dodge just from base dex. Why would I ever want to sacrifice 14% straight up damage reduction for US?

Also I've been using vengeance+curse on hit+enfeeble+blind alongside the CWDT, it feels like a great extra boost to defense, have you tried it out yet?
Last edited by ciryous#1654 on Dec 25, 2014, 5:31:58 PM
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ciryous wrote:
Im lvl 68 at bloodlines atm with 5,1k hp and 9,5k dps with this build.

I wanted to ask what's your reasoning for leveling up CWDT?
Lots of builds seem to use either lvl 1 or maybe lvl 4 CWDT, what's the upside/reason to level it up like you did?

Also I wanted to return back to my earlier posts question about unwavering stance, I feel like I never get stunned anyway and I have 14% dodge just from base dex. Why would I ever want to sacrifice 14% straight up damage reduction for US?

Also I've been using vengeance+curse on hit+enfeeble+blind alongside the CWDT, it feels like a great extra boost to defense, have you tried it out yet?


You level CWDT so you dont die to reflect, you need it as high as possible relative to your damage so it always procs on reflect, since i have very high dps it always procs on the first hit at level 20, it gives me enough duration to leech and regen back to full life before the reflect makes it pop again.

Because once in a while you will get rhoa rushed, you get desynced and box lags, which can kill you if you are stunlocked, for 1 point its worth it. 14% evasion is not very useful especially in the endgame youre much better off being stun immune always.

blind is extremely good but unfortunately i dont have enough gem slots to use vengeance :(
I carve and sell real animal skulls, check out my work here: https://www.instagram.com/victorseiche/
https://www.facebook.com/victorseicheart/
World first Uber Atziri as 2h and 2h RT build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1058950
Highest level char in Closed Beta, Wytchfindergeneral
Great build. Having tons of fun. Plenty of room for customization.

It's free, quit complaining, and just play the game.
Hey Doom, was curious on your choice on going up for Staff crit instead of going with something like a Lion Sword and going to the bottom right (Fatal Blade)for 2h Sword Crit? It would give you more speed and way more dex, since the sword is more base, and open up things like Puncture if you wanted it.
Now I could be missing something major, but figured I would ask you before actually leveling with staves
Last edited by Na_Krul#2918 on Dec 28, 2014, 10:48:17 PM

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