[1.3.X MIJOTHY'S SHOCKING RF INCINERATOR - 200k+ DPS, 10k Fire Pen Tooltip (LMP), Shocks all bosses*

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Tai wrote:
Some new theorycraft on this build?


I outlined a possible 1.3 tree a few posts above - some of the comparisons might be slightly incorrect as I was going off the first pre-patch version of the tree. After a brief look at the live one, it looks like we don't lose any life after all. The 110% multiplier of cold-to-fire is compensated for by the greater mana regen we get from the tree (incinerate costs 10 rather than 8, but we have enough regen to compensate). We gain about 10% tooltip including celestial's increase too, but we lose curse effectiveness from the COH nerf. There's also more armour available for us. We lose a minimal amount of block (about 4%) but that wasn't really a major defensive point of the build anyway. We also lose out from the LC nerf.

Tl;dr, the build is offensively stronger with 1.3, with the addition of a large number of damage nodes. Correspondingly, the build can be highly effective at lower levels than in 1.2. On the other hand, we are defensively slightly worse off, but nowhere near as worse off as incinerate builds that relied heavily on block, and defensively I think pretty much every build has lost out in its 1.2 form. Really though, with 10k fire pen tooltip and being able to shock anything we come across, the build still blazes through content. My gut feeling is that running enfeeble to (more than) make up for the defensive nerfs is probably more competitive than running elemental weakness.

Level 90 tooltip in 1.3


Level 90 passive tree
Last edited by MIJOTHY#1500 on Dec 16, 2014, 6:55:25 AM
Hello,

is there anything you see, that speaks against using this build as a templar?
Here is my tree on poebuilder at lvl82


Templar approach lvl82

When I down-size your build and focus on regen and HP, mine has slightly more base regen and slightly more base extra max life, but is 12% lower in the effect of auras.

Should I concentrate more on auras or on HP/regen?


reason for this is simple: I have an unspecced lvl82 Templar which I would like to reactivate.


Thanks for any helping answer!
Last edited by haensel#3487 on Dec 16, 2014, 8:12:03 AM
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haensel wrote:
Hello,

is there anything you see, that speaks against using this build as a templar?
Here is my tree on poebuilder at lvl82


Templar approach lvl82

When I down-size your build and focus on regen and HP, mine has slightly more base regen and slightly more base extra max life, but is 12% lower in the effect of auras.

Should I concentrate more on auras or on HP/regen?


reason for this is simple: I have an unspecced lvl82 Templar which I would like to reactivate.


Thanks for any helping answer!


Hi,

Going the templar route is certainly a viable choice now I think (perhaps even superior to scion). Note, however, that you may need to pick up extra dex nodes to use level 20 or 21 gems (e.g. LMP).

The most important thing with this build is being able to sustain RF. With respect to aura nodes, in all, it looks like you're losing 24% aura effectiveness (2x6% from sovereignty, 2x6% champion of the cause). What this means is that purity of fire grants you 6% max fire res rather than 7%, and vitality gives you 2.574% life regen rather than 2.97. So you have to adjust your life regen accordingly. You also lose 1% max lightning res.

With the loss of 1% max fire res from PoF, and around 0.4% life regen from vitality, your RF sustainability chart will look something like this (again, green if you have a +1% Max fire res amulet or chest, orange if not):


So to sustain RF with a 1% Amulet, you'd need 7.632% tree regen. Since you didn't have enough on your tree for that, I've made a quick adjustment to it which allows you to sustain RF.
New templar tree

As you can see, I dropped the 3 scion life regen nodes (1.2%) but picked up Warrior's Blood (1.8% + other goodies along the way). This takes you to 7.8% regen, giving you a buffer of around 0.15% regen between the sustainable level and your level. I also took the liberty of dropping the +10 flat max life from the scion start.

If you don't have a +1% max res amulet or chest, you can pick up the 3 scion starting regen nodes (1.2%) for 3 points and this takes you over the 8.8% sustainability level too (getting you to 9%).

All in all, I think templar is a very competitive option this patch, but just make sure you have enough dex. I guess the decision to go regen rather than aura effectiveness has both its pros and cons - you lose some mitigation but ruby flasks are more effective.

Hope this helped.
Last edited by MIJOTHY#1500 on Dec 16, 2014, 10:48:04 AM
Hey MIJOTHY,

thanks for the sound advice. I'm getting closer to the point where I can decide which of the RF Incinerator builds to follow.






I'm not sure weather thread is alive or not but I could use some help with trying to sustain RF, I'm not sure how to calculate the amount of regen I need to sustain the degen, even though I have 90% fire res I don't have enough Life regen though I took all the nodes the build said to take..

Forgive me I'm somewhat new to RF.

Any help would be appreciated!

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