Velvet's elemental buzzsaw {crit} ~ Atziri deathless/map clearing 1.3 Updated!

Hey,

one more question... in your skilltree you have 3 points in Increased Skill Effect Duration (Potency of Will). I'm just wondering what this is for?

I guess for your Immortal Call Combo?

I'm just wondering if I need those points as well. Since I use the cwdt (lv8) combo with immortal call.
Maybe I could use those points in a better way. I'm just not sure what actually is affected by the skill effect duration (power charges as well maybe?)

Thanks for your help! :)

@wftico


Everything you said is pretty much spot on. I take that cluster for my self cast Immortal Call. And yes, if you are using CWDT you shouldn't take it (since you will not see much of an improvement at lvl 8 and the IC serves a different purpose for you anyway, namely interrupting bursts of damage). So feel free to use the 3 skill points on something else.

But what else does 'Potency of Will' affect? It does not affect Power charge duration, but if you use other buffs like Molten Shell or Vaal Haste/Grace it will affect them. But I do not think extending the duration of those would justify spending 3 points.

Hope this helped. Happy hunting!

Thanks for your fast answer! Helped alot.

I might consider taking Arcing Blows (+lightning dmg with weapons). But I'm not sure if the lightning damage our Aura adds to it, will be taken into account there? Because if so, I think it should be a great boost, since a lot of our dmg comes from lightning I think.

Alternatively I would consider taking the "Sniper" node and the 2 +10% projectile damage increase.

Anyways, thanks again! The build really is super fun. Definitely more fun than the original ele buzzsaw I played. :)

@wftio

The Arcing Blows cluster does work, but don't know if it is the best choice. If I am not mistaken, the bonus is not multiplicative, so it will just add up to your WED bonuses (of which you should already have a lot).

I would recommend going for the 'Sniper' node instead. When I wrote the 1.3 update for the build I was really captivated by the option of using HoT to curse and generate power charges (basically for free). The range for HoT attacks is quite limited, so at the time I saw no benefit in attacking from very far if you cannot generate the PCs. But since this setup proved unreliable, I transited to self cast Assassin's Mark and now higher range makes sense.

ALSO ST is one of the best skills to have high range on because of the mechanics behind it. First off, the 100% implicit pierce chance ensures that your projectiles travel the max range even if they encounter mobs along the way (as opposed to spells in CoC setups). Second, no matter how high your attack speed is, without some projectile speed it seems a bit sluggish (takes too long for the initial projectile to hit its target).

That's why I am using 'Sniper' and 'Ballistic Mastery' now. What is funny is that the increased range and therefore AoE helps clear out packs faster (obviously) and therefore keeping PCs up is much easier (if played right about 90-95% uptime without going too YOLO). In addition to the defensive bonus of attacking from further away and not being out-ranged by any mob.

hey man, so i've been away from poe for some months (i quit halfway through beyond) and was thinking of getting back to it casually (if there is such a thing as casual poe player :P ).

i was a big fun of ele buzzsaw on invasion, and still got the poor bastard waiting on hardcore league at lvl92 with a free respec.
do you think i could spec into your build without much gear changes? trading is so time consuming but oh well, i have a bit of a bank there and wouldn't mind spending some towards it.

here's my gear


it saddens me but i know the foil has to go :/ but is there a way i could salvage the rest of the gear? i'd go for lightning coil again mostly cause it's 6l and 6links are pretty expensive

any thoughts or suggestions are welcome and good job on reviving that awesome build :)

@Meriantok

Hey! First off let me get your hopes up and tell you that there is such a thing as a casual PoE player (yours truly).

Let's start about the gear first. You have a 6L lightning coil. That is great and it can work just fine so you won't have to change it. Capping your lightning resist might be a bit of a problem, but certainly doable. Alpha's obviously stays and the belt stays (nothing to complain there). The shield looks great for resistances and although it has no high evasion/armor it can stay. Also, the boots and gloves can stay although they are far from perfect (accuracy on the gloves and move speed on the boots would be good bonuses).

BUT the weapon and the jewelry need an improvement. The weapon for the reason that 5% local crit will never do for a build like this (all you would need is an ambusher with high AS and high crit). The rings and amulet need WED, accuracy, life if possible and obviously cap your resists (if the rings can be diamond that would be great. and if the necklace would have some crit chance/multi it would also be great). This is where you would have to break the piggy bank if you want to make the build work. And you have the advantage of buying all the jewels together so you know what to aim for: how much overall resists/stats you need etc.

About the skill tree and gem setup: Hardcore is scary. One mistake and you can say farewell to all the hard work. So I would recommend a setup that is 'passively' strong, not relying on self cast EC+IC but using a CWDT one with high evasion. That would also play well with your Lightning Coil. Also, maybe it would be possible to drop some offensive nodes for extra life. We could discuss this and theory craft a bit before you respec if you want.

[I think the best option would be to use blood magic in your 6L. This way you save around 500 hp normally allocated to clarity and you don't have to worry about mana. Since you don't self cast EC+IC that can be crossed out too. You will need mana for whirling blades (very low cost) and Assassin's mark IF you decide to self cast it (you can use the HoT -> Curse on hit -> AM setup instead). ALSO, you will be able to reserve more mana and maybe squeeze Purity of Lightning in. This way your lightning cap will be higher (so you will take less Lightning and Phys dmg) and you will have less trouble capping your resistances.]

I think overall you can achieve something like this: approx 5K life, 80% lightning resist and the other 2 capped and around 20K dps (or maybe more depending on what gear you can procure). Sorry for writing so much, I just wanted to give a detailed explanation of what I would do. Send me a message or post here if you want to discuss further.

Man thanks a lot for going into such detail on your reply. After all that i have to play the build and not let your effort go to waste :p

Just kidding but i will play it.

I definitely want to keep the purity of lightning, it's just beast with the coil. II'll do some looking around on my inv and market for the rest of the items but I'm kinda scared of bm with such attack speed on hc. A little desync and you can end up whiffing the st and throwing your life away. We'll see, I'll probably get to it in a couple of days and we can theory craft about it :)

Again thanks for the extended analysis.
P.S No casual player writes whole essays on a poe question:p

@meriantok

Hehe I am glad you appreciate it, but honestly I do it mostly for fun. Obviously, I enjoy playing the game as much as any other, but ever since I started this guide, I enjoy theory crafting and discussing even more. I am not the kind of player that needs the best gear or the highest level. I just want to do the best with what I have. And this optimization process is the most interesting thing for me in the game.

Hi, right now, I'm kinda stuck. I'm lv 90 and I'm not sure how to increase my dps. Recently I changed from using blood magic to increased critical strikes and started to use your tree. Here is my gear:



I don't know what I can upgrade. I have 22.7k lmp, 14.5 gmp, and 33.5k faster attacks. I know I need to get a 20/20 increased critical strikes, but what else should i do?

@deM0n4lif

In principle the gear looks fine. The most effective way to increase the DPS would be to swap the gloves for maligaro's. Your weapon could use slightly higher crit chance (the local crit chance mod can have up to 37%). Also, your necklace has no WED. But as I said, everything looks good enough at first glance.

You didn't link your chest-piece though or your skill tree. Maybe there could be some work done there. And how much hp do you have? I see you prioritize getting elemental damage and accuracy instead of life on jewelry.

Keep me posted and we will see what we can do.