Path of Exile's December PvP Update

I am pretty sure any changes GGG implements to skills for PvP will not effect PvE. Righteous Fire for example.

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GreenDude wrote:

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KiPad wrote:

Sick but honestly take someone in addition greendude. He knows a lot about LLD but he's downright clueless about HLD.

Downright clueless is harsh. Especially since I hosted an HLD tournament and did my research via pvp feedback and I also asked HLDers directly for info. See this reply:

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No. I did do my research before I left and I even made a thread where I asked HLDers to tell me one thing they'd like to change about HLD if they could. However I still do not consider myself an HLD expert by any means. This is also why HLD is not the main focus yet, because it still needs more work.

I`m not going to pretend I know anything about your knowledge of HLD, although your overt lack participation in HLD does place some significant limit on it. But things like you not uploading all of the HLD tournament videos when you promised to weeks (almost a month?) ago indicates a significant bias that I'm not particularly comfortable with guiding PvP related decisions.

Oh man, this will end one of two ways. Either it will be great and GreenDude relayed the right information and/or GGG actually looked at the non bias non dumb ass comments in the pvp section. Or it will be a cluster fuck where gems are buffed for LLD use subsequently making them more broken in HLD and we all just wish the whole thing was left alone in its current messed up state.

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HegemonyTV wrote:

If people play long enough, they too can attain BiS mirrored items.
This is what I've been playing for for so long.

Among popular disbelief, High level pvp is quite balanced.
Everybody in my guild are all different builds, all unique, and all very very competitive.

The lack of High level platform of PvP really is disturbing.
I'm happy for Greendude, but really disappointed in not really considering high level dueling as a part of the pvp competitive engagement.

lol high lvl is not "balanced"

and it never will be.

consider 1 shot flicker builds dagger/shield/bis

even though i have never done LLD i am much more interested in that aspect than the HLD crap show

it could turn out to be.

its just more interesting i think.

Racing has a negligible barrier to entry (watch a couple top racer vids, do a few practice runs) and still has a tiny percentage of the active player base participating in any given season.

Dueling (in its current form) has a considerably higher barrier to entry at best, and a ridiculous barrier to entry at worst, especially for hld. Its hard to see dueling seasons having higher than ghost town levels of participation if there arent a considerable amount of events similar to races, where the players all start out on roughly equal footing and results are determined primarily by skill.

Id suggest that there be two sections to dueling leagues: A bring your own pre-geared character format, aka what we have now, and a from-scratch format where players create a temporary event character that starts at lvl28 (lld) or lvl100 (hld), skill it then gear it from a set of predetemined items that are equally available to everyone, with roughly equal amounts of events in both formats.

dayummmmmmmm, bout' time

Holy shit, hype!

Any word on cuttthroat?

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GreenDude wrote:

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KiPad wrote:

Sick but honestly take someone in addition greendude. He knows a lot about LLD but he's downright clueless about HLD.

Downright clueless is harsh. Especially since I hosted an HLD tournament and did my research via pvp feedback and I also asked HLDers directly for info. See this reply:

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No. I did do my research before I left and I even made a thread where I asked HLDers to tell me one thing they'd like to change about HLD if they could. However I still do not consider myself an HLD expert by any means. This is also why HLD is not the main focus yet, because it still needs more work.

Hosting I appreciate but no offense it doesn't rly require knowledge about HLD specifically and some of your comments in the pvp sub are honestly why I and many others think you're pretty clueless about hld. At any rate it looks like we both agree 1. you're far from an hld expert and 2. instead of having you serve as a conduit of hld knowledge it would be preferable to have ggg talking to someone that actually does hld and has demonstrated strong hld game knowledge (did i mention has actually participated in hld?), because Im sure when you relayed hld'ers concerns/thoughts to GGG they asked you further questions and engaged your in deeper dialogue which you were frankly not equipped to handle given you meet neither of the aforementioned criteria

well played, greendude