RaizQT's budget RF incinerator (Atziri killer build) 2.0 UPDATED!

you talk about the flask nodes in the leveling section but they are not in the actual final build, i'm wondering why.
are they redundant now? sure, we have 99% fire res with ruby potion and should be enough even without getting up to 102%, but i think that the 3% extra light res could help a lot if you get hit by a laser (vaal) or a storm call (atziri), going from 90% to 93% reduces our lightning damage taken by 30% after all, and the extra duration could be useful as well in every stage.

also i don't get why you suggest to avoid directly casting elemental weakness on atziri, even with a few random equipment pieces and no inner force my fire/light resistances are way overstacked thanks to the purities and unless the curse reflection doubles the power of the curse i should have them maxed anyway (save cold).

haven't tested this on the field myself as i'm still working on leveling the gems (my incinerate is still at lvl 17 as of now), just a couple doubts i have.

Would greatly appreciate some advice here.

My equipment: My standard flasks: Passive tree Lv. 91 (I can't bring myself to drop the flask nodes for the witch-ele cicle and I am obviously working towards Inner Force): The gloves are utter garbage obviously, and the boots are pretty mediocre too. Also looking for a good amu and maaaybe a helmet. But I get 213/183/185 res, which is enough to run RF on ele weakness maps and be generally capped. Unless I get cursed too, which I counter with flasks.

I use Three Dragons for clearing speed as Incinerate has a 10% chance to shock with it. And as I am currently sitting on 12.8 casts per second (still going up from leveling gems) it's pretty much a guaranteed shock in under a second. It's obviously worthless against bosses. A nice bonus is that it adds a chance to freeze to Herald of Thunder, which otherwise has no ele effect.

Tooltip DPS for RF is 5627.9 with LMP and 3849.1 for GMP (no Q on that yet). With Added Cold instead of Faster Projectiles I get 6486.9 LMP and 4408.8 GMP.

What bugs me is that I am sitting at 5447 HP (725 reg), 821/2149 mana (305.7 reg) with HoT and 576/2149 mana with Purity of Lightning. Even if I would add another theoretical 100 HP from gear (which would be pretty hard to do at this state, I use Blood Reaper to test it), I end up with 5713 HP.

In the videos Raiz has over 6k HP. Did his new passive tree lose so much HP? Also my MoM mana pool is only 821 or 576 respectively, which can be depleted pretty quickly. 14k armor (58%) with granite flask and 1.5k eva (16%) in general. I somehow feel squishy when big stuff hits me. Also I am not entirely confident in my damage output.

I finished all maps from 66 to 78 EXCEPT Jungle Valley, which I tried two times but there was just no way to survive the boss at the time. I am way better geared now but I am still not confident I can survive the chaos and flicker onslaught with only 24% block and -60% chaos res. Also, I haven't done the one thing this build is supposedly made for: Atziri. I don't want to waste the fragments so I want to be 100% certain I can handle her without problems.

Is my current state enough to melt her as hard as Raiz did in his demonstration videos? And can I survive a mistake or two?
Also, on a related note, Jungle Valley help! I am thinking about adding Knockback to Incinerate and switching all my Jewelery for

Hi I'm looking for advice on whether I should stick with my current wand

or upgrade to a doryani. Mostly I'm just worried about losing the 79% crit chance and 32% projectile speed. I'm afraid of upgrading and finding out that the dps increase isn't worth the loss of those 2 stats.

Oh and also this character is strictly for farming 5 man dominus, I don't do any maps or atziri.



Would a 10% cast speed, 90%+ elemental doryani be a significant upgrade over my current wand?

Thanks!







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Cocofang wrote:

Would greatly appreciate some advice here.
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you have almost no mana regen besides the cloak (just 32% on the amu), believe me it helps immensely.
also you could increase your mana pool a bit by getting gear with more ES or mana rolls.
getting a lvl21 corrupted reduced mana should also free quite a bit of your mana reserved.

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rfadream wrote:

Would a 10% cast speed, 90%+ elemental doryani be a significant upgrade over my current wand?

Upgrade? Yes. Significant? No. I don't think that the Crit Chance on your wand is worth anything. The Catalyst increases elemental damage, so it increases your HoT aswell. You'd loose 9% cast speed and these sweet 32% projectile speed tho. I guess it's a matter of personal preferrence.

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Cocofang wrote:

Is my current state enough to melt her as hard as Raiz did in his demonstration videos? And can I survive a mistake or two?

Killing Atziri is still a matter of experience and skill if you ask me. You char is more then ready tho.
My understanding is that Herald of Thunder can't shock enemys itself. However, the lightning damage that is added to your incinerate can shock, making The Three Dragons somewhat useless for this build. You could try to run The Vertex as a fat ES boost, Chaos resistances and you could even put your AA/Empower in it. I plan on trying this myself (Just need to compensate for the life loss).

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rfadream wrote:

Hi I'm looking for advice on whether I should stick with my current wand

or upgrade to a doryani. Mostly I'm just worried about losing the 79% crit chance and 32% projectile speed. I'm afraid of upgrading and finding out that the dps increase isn't worth the loss of those 2 stats.

Oh and also this character is strictly for farming 5 man dominus, I don't do any maps or atziri.

Upgrade to Doryanis and no thoughts. =)
Incinerate never crits itself. I mean crit chance = 0(zero)
0*1.79=0. Yes, you can play with assassin's mark, but ele weakness just better.
Projectile speed gives increase in range of skill, but you meant to stay close to domi. Point?

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kahzin wrote:

Upgrade? Yes. Significant? No. I don't think that the Crit Chance on your wand is worth anything. The Catalyst increases elemental damage, so it increases your HoT aswell. You'd loose 9% cast speed and these sweet 32% projectile speed tho. I guess it's a matter of personal preferrence.

ya I wasn't sure if the crit chance was doing anything.

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oldgood wrote:

Upgrade to Doryanis and no thoughts. =)
Incinerate never crits itself. I mean crit chance = 0(zero)
0*1.79=0. Yes, you can play with assassin's mark, but ele weakness just better.
Projectile speed gives increase in range of skill, but you meant to stay close to domi. Point?

but I'm pretty sure I'd miss the increased range from 32% projectile speed against mobs.
I'm still killing everything in scepter of god lvl2 and lvl3 on the way to dominus cuz im trying to lvl further. (only lvl 78 right now)


I'm tempted to upgrade to doryani mostly because I read that the 110% increased elemental damage applies to the righteous fire burn whereas the increased spell damage on my curent wand does not. I thought this would be a significant added dps against dominus on top of the dps increase to incinerate.


can anyone confirm that the boost to the melee burn damage from righteous fire using doryani is significant?

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dolan_grey wrote:

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Cocofang wrote:

Would greatly appreciate some advice here.
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you have almost no mana regen besides the cloak (just 32% on the amu), believe me it helps immensely.
also you could increase your mana pool a bit by getting gear with more ES or mana rolls.
getting a lvl21 corrupted reduced mana should also free quite a bit of your mana reserved.

Uh, the post updated to stuff I didn't mean to be there. THIS is my regular jewelery:
All the chaos-res stuff was meant to be an alternative setup for Jungle Valley. That being said, would that help with the boss or should I stick with my standard gear?

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kahzin wrote:

Killing Atziri is still a matter of experience and skill if you ask me. You char is more then ready tho.
My understanding is that Herald of Thunder can't shock enemys itself. However, the lightning damage that is added to your incinerate can shock, making The Three Dragons somewhat useless for this build. You could try to run The Vertex as a fat ES boost, Chaos resistances and you could even put your AA/Empower in it. I plan on trying this myself (Just need to compensate for the life loss).

Okay, then I will risk her in a few days, I guess.

I tested the Three Dragons interaction and the added damage to incinerate itself shocks as you said. It only adds a freeze effect to the lightning bolts which otherwise don't have any elemental effect at all. So I guess I will try moving away from Three Dragons. But I am dependent on the +30% all res on it right now to run ele weakness maps. I guess better gloves and boots will eventually help me compensate for the loss if I add The Vertex, which looks really nice but is kinda expensive too. Maybe I can get the currency if I finally farm Atziri, heh. I wouldn't even feel the HP-loss because Three Dragons doesn't give me HP either.

Another question: Incinerate has a shotgun-effect, which means enemies very close to you can be hit my multiple streams if you use LMP or GMP. Is the shotgun-effect for GMP better than for LMP, to the point where GMP deals MORE damage then LMP even though it has a harsher damage reduction?

Hi i have a question ... would an empower (3 or 4 ) better than faster procetiles or added cold damage as the 6 slot ?

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Another question: Incinerate has a shotgun-effect, which means enemies very close to you can be hit my multiple streams if you use LMP or GMP. Is the shotgun-effect for GMP better than for LMP, to the point where GMP deals MORE damage then LMP even though it has a harsher damage reduction?

LMP is better even with the shotgun effect,because 1 ennemie can hardly be hit with more than 3 stream even with GMP, so LMP win for single target