speed casting cap

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Jurge wrote:

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WhiteBoy88 wrote:

Realistically...
40% from 2 wands, or is it 25% each?
40% from 2 rings.
20% from an amulet.
24% from 8 power charges.
35% from the current passives, but your build would be all over the place.

Are those numbers from gear correct? I seem to remember a belt with ICS, also.

Yes belts can have ICS aswell, the amounts you've written seem right from what i can remember...

Lots of this is wrong. Just looking at items I have in the bank for these so they are probably not the highest values.

48% from 2 wands
48% from 2 rings
21% from neck (id assume this can be higher)
18% from belt (this also seems low)
21% from 7 power charges (where did you get 8 from?)
35% from passives
9% from unique helm
21% from Cast speed support gem (lv16)
8% from 20 qlty faster projectile support gem

Might be missing something but thats all I could find in my stash.

Also frenzy does not give any cast speed.

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zoL wrote:

21% from 7 power charges (where did you get 8 from?)

A witch can have 8 power charges can't they? Templar max out at 7. There are three +1 max power charge passives.

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zoL wrote:

Also frenzy does not give any cast speed.

Frenzy charges do give increased cast speed unless the character sheet is pulling an ex-girlfriend and lying to me. I did forget that power charges do give +3% cast rate when you take the appropriate passive so I'm thinking

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zoL wrote:

48% from 2 wands
48% from 2 rings
21% from neck (id assume this can be higher)
18% from belt (this also seems low)
35% from passives
9% from unique helm
21% from Cast speed support gem (lv16)
8% from 20 qlty faster projectile support gem

then on a ranger you can achieve
40% from 8 frenzy charges
15% from 5 power charges

However, if this was on the sixth class, it could be
35% from 7 frenzy charges
21% from 7 power charges

for an extra 1%

You're right about frenzy. The skill tooltip only says increases atk speed but the charge tooltip does say cast also.

Also I've never made a high lv witch. As a base do they get 5 charges? because my temp only gets 4(+3 from passive)

Yeah, pure classes start with five charges in their related attribute. Hybrids start with four charges in their two attributes. Off-attributes get two.

So the Witch starts with 5 power, 2 frenzy, 2 endurance and maxes at 8 power, 5 frenzy, 5 endurance.

Templar starts with 4 power, 2 frenzy, 4 endurance, and maxes at 7 power, 5 frenzy, 7 endurance.

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IMDisappoint wrote:

Yeah, pure classes start with five charges in their related attribute. Hybrids start with four charges in their two attributes. Off-attributes get two.

So the Witch starts with 5 power, 2 frenzy, 2 endurance and maxes at 8 power, 5 frenzy, 5 endurance.

Templar starts with 4 power, 2 frenzy, 4 endurance, and maxes at 7 power, 5 frenzy, 7 endurance.

My templar got 5 power charges before getting the passives that add more.

I keep his int at 5 per level.

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zoL wrote:

21% from Cast speed support gem (lv16)

My 20% quality gem has 22%+7% @ level 17 so that's another 8% at least.

Your templer did not have 5 power charges before getting charges :D .

The power charge on crit thing is surrounded by additional charges

While on this topic, how does increased casting speed work?

In Diablo 2 there were breakpoints, where you'd for example have a cast animation of 7 frames at 50% (and above to next breakpoint) cast speed, while having a cast animation of 6 frames at 100%.

How does it work in PoE?

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/blue-on-d3s-breakpoints

It's a link to Diablo 3, but it applies to Path of Exile.

It's pretty simple - if you have a spell with a base cast time of .85 seconds, 100% increase in cast speed makes it into .425 second cast. It should be very exact. Well, "relatively" very exact.

Judging by Mark's insane ICS test, I would assume there are no frame/cast breakpoints.

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konfeta wrote:

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/blue-on-d3s-breakpoints

It's a link to Diablo 3, but it applies to Path of Exile.

It's pretty simple - if you have a spell with a base cast time of .85 seconds, 100% increase in cast speed makes it into .425 second cast. It should be very exact. Well, "relatively" very exact.

Even with 40+ % cast speed, the skill description keeps saying it's normal cast time. (This case, .85 seconds)

Why so?