[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Hessed wrote:

* I was seeing blasphemy, I found it very interesting to use some of the "marks" as aura, for me it is more efic than to spend two socket with curse + CurseOnHit. I had thought of assass (critical), but that gives me power charge and not of frenzy (like poacher) .. or use assassin for power charge, and blood rage for frenzy maybe?

You would switch Blasphemy for Curse. So I don't see how you save a slot here? Anyways 4 slot helmet, gloves or boots is fine - and those are easily craftable with Vorici.

As you hit the whole screen, Curse seems better to me than a small aura. And Rangers don't have great Aura buffs.

Power charge is still good - because this build relies on crits. The more the better.
You don't get +1 max frenzy from Poachers - you just go faster to max frenzy charges.

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Hessed wrote:

* if penetration works best, should I search for all elemt-penetr nodes? or just some and look for the ones that improve my elemental damage? .. and with respect to this i remain in doubt about having available in the tree passives that buff the cold attack .. why not focus everything in this damage? or is another element more effective? or a mixture of several? (I've read that fire is better for single-target)

Penetration is already include in the OT Tree. Those cold nodes are pretty good.
But it depends on ele conversion - I don't know how this works.

Basic Idea is: phys2light adds 50% conversion. Signal fire would add 50% conversion too (fire then).

So don't know what would happen with 20% cold conversion here. Not using a Signal Fire - so for me those nodes are good (just took the upper ones to get to conversion - skipped the lower ones) Increased chill + more cold damage would still be decent, though - especially with icebite support on curse links.

What I don't know is what happens if you already have 100 (50+50) conversion and add more conversion from Winterspirit. It seams to get spread among the elementals.

However the basic idea seems to be: Get huge phys damge (Harbinger Bow).+Phys applies. Then convert to ele and +ele % applies.

Unfortunatly there is no cold2phys support gem.

Dunno why but I have 77% conversion to cold (with Winter spirit - without 57% on't know where those come from but probably percentage math). If I add Signal Fire in PoB Cold damage goes down - so you probably don't wanna have to much conversion. Don't know the math behind it.

However - without Signal fire those Cold nodes seem to be decent. Maybe change some items to get more out of cold.

Edit: There is an wiki article about conversion. Not so easy to grasp - but the above is in general not wrong. Those cold nodes are decent without Signal fire conversion. Maybe not meta - but ok. You could try to get more cold damage (there was a quiver with it - I think).

But use PoB with your current Char. You'll see what the nodes get you, like DPS gain, Life and so on. Don't think you can plan a tree without items involved - may be if your know everything about the game. And then it still would need testing. Play, import to PoB, know the generell directions and plan 5-10 levels ahead in PoB, switch some things - and so on.

What Pantheon is good for build nr. 1?

I understood that CurseOnHit should be linked to the active skill (TS in this case), which reduces me a socket, so I proposed curse in aura.
Thanks for the info of ele-damaga, I will look for more about it.
(I still do not know how to share my gear here)

Xbox player here and loving this build. Used Lightning Arrow/Barrage for so long, have now switched to Tornado Shot and its so much easier.

Have found using Warlord's Mark as my curse instead of EleWeak/Assassin has given me substantially better survivability with extra leech and longer duration IC/CWDT. Am only Lev84 and around 3200 HP, looking to get more life in the next few levels.

Tree so far:


Not really sure where to go from here, probably using too many uniques

"reach of the council bow" any good for this build ? or is lionseye superior ?

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MushaConvoy wrote:

Xbox player here and loving this build. Used Lightning Arrow/Barrage for so long, have now switched to Tornado Shot and its so much easier.

Have found using Warlord's Mark as my curse instead of EleWeak/Assassin has given me substantially better survivability with extra leech and longer duration IC/CWDT. Am only Lev84 and around 3200 HP, looking to get more life in the next few levels.

Tree so far:

Spoiler

https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAOEACRIBAG2v6wHRokD0-KEixKK74_66fXXTfu967g6jiiP2TZKNfTB8yNx_KznUdvcx-qCf_W5-3Xj5jblRR-dUJP3_3jfU7T8-z73mlQXZxjKUfwKm4AiJmvFdaMqpjb_UIwW16NabJt1GY6cRgSLqMgGyGc96wuy0xWKsbIwM8qXLnao2PetjES8rCl3yKgtwUonTjDZVS2HiJpUWv3X9hG-1SNRC_MUNjYd2Sn1bryF2hs7BM04qTP9DMdrBdO0FLcMzWhqNfs2Y6mJ1y76nZU29NsM6KjgXJnqE0K1B0AAADgAAAgAH0AEB9AECAgcAAMUAHgKrARQABwH0AQG8AgFkAAH6AAEUBQHoAwHcBQQHACQCOwAAAQHwAAYBZAACUACgAAI8AIwAAgoAVAEBUAABLAEAAAAVApUBFAAEAVgCAZYAAfQBATIABAcADACSABQBAfQBAAYfACICfQAAAQIoAFAABgFkAAHoAwEsAQFeAQH0AQIyAGQAAAAAAAAcAiMAAAEBoAAGAZABAcgAARQAAfQBAZABAAAAABUCbgEUAAQBCAcB7gIBLAEBoAAEBwAAAAAAAA==

Not really sure where to go from here, probably using too many uniques

I modified your tree a bit. Cleaned up some things in favor of HP. 166% HP should get you the HP boost you need. I also picked up the leech nodes just below Duelist. You REALLY need these unless you are doing the Lioneye Jewel/Claw Node thing, which nets the necessary leech you need to sustain. Your sheet will be lower, but the survivability gains should far outweigh that loss.

With these changes, you can drop Warlord's Mark in favor of Elemental Weakness or other curse. If you find you still need a more defensive curse while you gear up, try Enfeeble with CWDT.

Hi guys!

Could some of the more experienced players check my build and equip again pls?




My passive tree:


Is PB viable with lioneyes because of "far shot"? Did I missed some important points? Which items should I "upgrade"? Probably my belt?

TY! Cheers

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Hessed wrote:

I understood that CurseOnHit should be linked to the active skill (TS in this case), which reduces me a socket, so I proposed curse in aura.

A few pages before it was explained that you only have normaly one active curse on enemies (so ele weakness + assmark doesn't work as they are both curses). The order of linked gems shouldn't play a role as long as they are linked - maybe in this case - but it would be one wasted gem (had it too). Some classes get more curses (witches can - +1 curse on enemies or so). There are also some items.
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Curse

HoI,Ass, Curse and Ice Bite work for instance - only AssMark is a curse. So 4 gems in helmet, gloves or boots that work. Some drop AssMark for projectile or elemental weakness or go for Thunder setup.

Blasphemy would also only allow one curse on enemies so you are not gaining anything from that unless Auras work with multiple curses?

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Hessed wrote:

Thanks for the info of ele-damaga, I will look for more about it.
(I still do not know how to share my gear here)

On this site ->Manage your Account -> Privacy Settings. First checkbox I think. Just turn it off.

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thisiscrs wrote:

Hi guys!

Could some of the more experienced players check my build and equip again pls?

My passive tree:

Spoiler

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAABeBS0FtQguCIkM8g2NES8RgRR1Fr8XJhmOIXYi6iPTI_YknST9JpUqCyo4LlMwfDH6MgE2PTnUPL4-z0HQQzFHfkp9TP9Nkk4qUUdVS1b6Whpbr11oXfJfcGHiYlpirGOnZU1noGyMbydwUnTtdct1_Xb3d9d4-XqEfXV-3X8rg22Eb4bOh3aJ04w2jX2Nfo25jb-PYJUFmmqa8Zsmm42dqqCfpMKly6fUshm0xbVIu-O9Nr3mvqfBM8LswzPDOsSiyqnNmM960K3Tb9N-1CPUQtjV2cbawd1G45_nVOjW6mLrY-2D7g7vev1u_rr-yP_e?accountName=thisiscrs&characterName=Areaya

Is PB viable with lioneyes because of "far shot"? Did I missed some important points? Which items should I "upgrade"? Probably my belt?

TY! Cheers

Far Shot + King of the Hill + Point Blank do not synergize well. Drop Point Blank IMO. You are going to be killing bosses with barrage at a distance.
Tree could use a bit of work:

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oOSlushyOo wrote:

Drop Point Blank IMO. You are going to be killing bosses with barrage at a distance.