Optimized WoE + BoR dual strike duelist [1.2.x] "Then We Doubled It"

Comparison with Zivko high dps mana based build below.

This build works the same way as other blood magic BoR WoE builds already on forums, but the passive tree is optimized to give twice the dps while only losing 8.8% hp, 4% block, some life regen, and life recovery from flask nodes at level 91.

If a small edge in survivability (detailed below) is more important than doubling your DPS, then one of Zivko's BoR+WoE builds may be better for you.

This build takes advantage of more 2H nodes and attack speed for more dps and faster leap slam (0.47 sec with just faster attacks). No points are wasted on inferior paths, node clusters, or +10 dex nodes.

Atziri is easily farmable with this build as are all maps, quickly.

The only bad mods are phys reflect (doable but very slow) or poison + vulnerability since I have no chaos resist currently.

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STATS (39.5k splash, 55k singletarget, 69% block 52% spellblock, 5k life)


GEAR + LINKS


BANDITS


LEVELING TIPS


COMPARISON TO ZIVKO HIGH DPS MANA BASED BUILD (level 91)


If you like this build please bump the post so others wont struggle with unoptimized passive trees.

This is not an optimized version of WoE + BoR build. What it gained in dps, it lost in survivability.

Build this thread is trying to optimize can be found here: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/934466/

This would be the stats if both builds had the same gear.

This build:
39k dps DS+splash
5.4k life
69% block
69% spell block
500 hp/sec life leech
problems with reflect

Here's the WoE+BoR tidus1492 tried to 'optimize'
32k dps DS+splash
6k life
73% block
73% spell block
30% chance to avoid being stunned
1200 hp/sec life leech
reflect a non issue
1800hp restored from instant life flasks


Better stats are highlighted.
Poebuilder.com was used to compare defensive stats of the builds using SAME gear (rainbowstrides included, which at the time i'm writing this post are not being used in this build). You can create gear and import both skill trees to poebuilder and see the stats like life, block, stun avoidance and so on for yourself. I'm specificaly writing this because i've been accused o skewing stats. Don't take my word for it, check them for yourself.
I'd also like to point out while accusing me of skewing the stats, he's making obviously false claims about build difference, for exmaple claiming dps output is doubled (check the thread title). He showed a few times already he's math is off, but claiming 39k is 2x more then 32k is absurd.

Even though tidus1492 is trying to discredit the build he's copying to make this build look better, the fact is that reason why BoR+WoE build is so good is its high survivability, which is toned down more then he's willing to admit. In fact he's calling it marginal loss in defense stats, which is not true if you take a look at stats based on same gear.
Offensive stats are improved compared to original build, build does gain approximately 7k dps, but if same auras are used in both builds, dps increase is a bit less then 5k.

I do not consider gain in dps while crippling build's defenses and drop in sustainability to be optimization which i stated multiple time in this thread and that is the reason why i have taken an issue with this.

I would not respond to this thread if it weren't for the word 'optimized' in its title. If the damage went up, but defensive stats were the same or slightly worse, as OP claims, this would indeed be optimization.
This build, however, simply drops important defensive stats to gain additional dps. Truth of the matter is that this is just a different build and increase in dps has a downside of decrease in its survivability which outweighs the benefit, in my opinion. And i have a lot of experience playing this build.

Hopefully, OP will post some videos in the future so we can see the build in action. I wouldn't mind watching an Apex run.

Unfortunately Zivko has taken offence to someone greatly optimizing the passive tree for one of his BoR + WoE builds and the next 2 pages are essentially him comparing his build with superior default league gear and no blood magic gem vs my current rampage gear using blood magic gem, along with skewing some numbers.

I advise the reader to compare the skill trees and not compare gear as that will depend on what you can find/trade for in game.

I recommend the website poebuilder.com as you can load up both passive trees and compare them easily as I have done above.

First, dps tooltip with melee splash displays single target damage, splash is a lot lower. So you do not have 55k single target dps and 39 splash damage, you have ~39k single target damage and ~32k splash.

Compared to mana variant of my build, you're not doubling dps, you're gaining gaining 6-7k dps* but losing 800 life*, 4% max lightning resistance, 3% block and 21% spellblock, 65% increased life recovered from flasks which is even worse considering you have only 2% life leech. This also means phys reflect is probably an issue, maybe even elemental reflect since large potion of the damage is elemental.

*if the gear was the same

I have no problem with this build being posted, i have problem with calling it optimized because it has so many downsides that its hard to argue that its even equally good, let alone better.

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if you want a comparison with same gear (so if both builds have rainbowstrides), heres the stats:
1000 more life, 4% more block and spell block, 4% more lightning resistance, 30% chance to avoid being stunned, reflect a non issue compared to cant play reflect maps, 1200hp/sec leech regen compared to 500hp/sec
also instant flasks recover ~1100 compared to ~1800.

you don't need to list tree break down and percentages, i already listed you the stats so look at them. you can't call that 'a slight edge in survivability' and call it optimized when dps increase on ds+splash is less then 25%.

I have updated the comparison above taking into account the additional strength which gives your build a 9.7% life advantage, or the difference between 5209 hp and 5706 hp

If you can point out a problem with my math please do so and I will correct it. Otherwise I think the numbers speak for me.

sure, let the numbers speak for them self.
you lost a big chunk of survivability and ability to deal with reflect for less then 25% increase in dps.
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I have not seen Zivko's build but i can vouch that Tidus's build is very effective.

We are clearing 77+ maps extremely fast with no trouble at all.

How is this actually optimized? It looks pretty unoptimized to me, maybe you picked up the earlier drafts of the WoE build?