The Mathil Tornado/Puncture Spec - Cheap Uber Atziri Viable

So, how much of an effect will the puncture nerf have here?

Ouch. The nerf bat hurts... bad. And yea, looks like they lied about Puncture, the patch notes say:

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Puncture now bleeds for 10% of hit damage at all levels. It also gains more increased physical damage per level.

Which appears to be untrue. Looking up the old data for puncture, at level 19 it does 72% increased physical damage. Guess what I'm looking at right now in game with my lvl 19 puncture? 72% increased physical damage, same as before. What is changed is the bleed is now fixed at 10% while not moving and 50% while moving.

So yea, I'm thinking ice shot might be better now?!?! lol

Also, I lost at least 20% dps off of tornado shot.

Yea, the only way I see puncture still being viable is if you spec into Bloodletting. It just feels super weak now without it.

So... Since puncture is nerfed, what should we switch it to? Obviously TS is weaker too, so do we have to switch to ice shot full time?

OK.

I've specced into Bloodletting, at least till the more damage on Puncture is fixed (as it indeed appears to have remained the same).

I've lost about 2K (while on 4 Power Charges (at 80% Critical Chance with them) of Tornado DPS and about 5K Puncture DPS.

Still kicks arse though.

EDIT: Just did Zana's lvl 74 Shipyard with Vulnerability and Elemental Weakness. Still walk in the park, as expected.

To expand on that - just facetanked Gravicius with Puncture (total 3% life leech).

Since I play self-found, I am more vulnerable to nerfs. I don't have decent gear so even 20% damage decrease would cost me.
I was burned in the previous patch that rendered my EK build useless, so I rather not use up my reset points sub-optimally. I might have to watch from the sidelines until everyone else sort out the best setup... Good luck, everyone.

i sometimes wonder y i play this fing game....i'll be decreasing money spent n more time away from this game hope most will follow.....lost 13k dps tornado....32k dps lost from puncture :-( wtg gg can still kill easy but just the point....

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dragnmith1 wrote:

i sometimes wonder y i play this fing game....i'll be decreasing money spent n more time away from this game hope most will follow.....lost 13k dps tornado....32k dps lost from puncture :-( wtg gg can still kill easy but just the point....

to lose that much you woulda had to have like 50k TS and over 100k puncture, so uhh not thinking you're in too bad of shape anyway

to lose that much you woulda had to have like 50k TS and over 100k puncture, so uhh not thinking you're in too bad of shape anyway



had 59.7k tornado 154k puncture now 46k torn 122k punctue that's before the 4 pcoc

I would love to see your gear.

Also, I think you are OK.

I am doing 73 - 74 maps with almost any affix (save for the usual combos of reflects and low/no regen) with (from memory, may be off by a few hundreds in DPS department):

3K life, 9.5K TS, 18K Puncture

What do you really have to complain about with stats so superior to mine? That you can't one shot 78s?