The Mathil Tornado/Puncture Spec - Cheap Uber Atziri Viable

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saxisa wrote:

I'm currently using this bow:

Works pretty well, but I see everyone mostly using harbingers. Would that be substantially better than Death's Harp, and how expensive are they? Or what kind of bow should I look for?

Great build!

Death's Harp is the king of kings up to 53, at which point if you have a good decimation to take over you'll gain many deeps. It'll still hold up for a while but by the point you're at Harbingers then even a mid tier one will be waaaay better. I'd look into buying a cheap one at the very least.

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thesomberlain wrote:

Hey Mathil, just wanted to say thanks for the build! Beat Atziri on my first attempt tonight. Died 3 times but still... fun build!

Good stuff, always great to hear!

Hi Mathil, approx how much crit will you be aiming for?

Really fun build mate! Cruising along just fine since the beginning. I'd appreciate any suggestions on what i can improve on. I'm sitting at 2500HP an am fire/light res cap. I run hatred/ash for auras. 25k tornado shot with GMP and 12,5k puncture. Also should I keep the +2 stat on bow and continue crafting or just re roll for better stats? I have lvl 6 tora an elreon atm.

I guess a question would be what am I looking for in a bow? Pure DPS? Seems like some of the thicket bows pack some serious punch...

And they are cheaper than the harbingers for some reason.

And what would be classified as a mid-tier harbinger? DPS over 250 or something? Or is it the crit closer to 10?

Hi again Mathil !

I have killed Atziri 4 times since my last post , the vaals and the trio are super easy, killing the first vaal before the other has spawned lol.

The one problem im still having is with Atziri. I still die 2-3 times on the split phase. Everything else is super easy.

Would you have any tips for that annoying split phase ??

I will say it again for new people reading ur spec ,its awesome :)

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Epicdovic21 wrote:

Hi again Mathil !

I have killed Atziri 4 times since my last post , the vaals and the trio are super easy, killing the first vaal before the other has spawned lol.

The one problem im still having is with Atziri. I still die 2-3 times on the split phase. Everything else is super easy.

Would you have any tips for that annoying split phase ??

I will say it again for new people reading ur spec ,its awesome :)

Atziri is simple. Don't get hit by spells on the ground and don't attack into the mirror bitch.

Ok, just pulled the trigger on this:
for just a bit less than 2ex. There were others a bit cheaper, but with waaay less DPS and crit.

My DPS jumped from 4800 to almost 8000. Woooot!

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cloudscraper wrote:

Do you have any tool or guideline to simulate effective DPS of similar bows?

For example:
- how important is pDPS compared to eDPS compared to total DPS?
- how important is bow's "tooltip" critical strike chance?
- how important are APS?

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1. You will have ~300% increased physical bow damage, and just around 100% increased elemental bow damage. So, EDPS will give at best 1/2 of what PDPS would. If you take into account, that a lot of mobs have elemental resists, the 1/4 ratio will be probably the most fair. Oh, and elemental damage cant leech.
Lightning damage can be somewhat useful due to shock, but you need to stack quite a lot of it. Other elementas arent really useful.

2. It's extremely important. Think about it as abut a damage multiplier. 15% more base critical strike chance will be as good as 15% more base damage. Or even better. Note, though - you can reroll implicit crit mod with blessed orbs.

3. Dont think about it, actually. You want Death/Decimation/Harbinger bow anyway, due to ridiculously strong implicit mod (read 2.), and since the best AS mod you can have on bows is like 13% increased attack speed, you dont have real options there - the base AS of you bow will be 1.1-1.35, and that wont make any serious difference.
Generally, you'll want a faster bow, but slower bow has its benefits too.

Great build and a lot of fun. I'm using this bow in merciless atm act 2, I trysed buying the one you bought for 10c, everyones's selling these kind of bows for 1.5ex :/, but anyhow, I'm clearing things very fast and without much problem and with 1500hp only. Only issue I have is with strength and intel, I have rat's nest and can't equip it because my helm provides bonus strength and I need it for my herald of ash and reduced mana. Should I try crafting strength and intel on something and equip rat's or is it useless untill I'm eligible for maps?

Cheers

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saxisa wrote:

I guess a question would be what am I looking for in a bow? Pure DPS? Seems like some of the thicket bows pack some serious punch...

And they are cheaper than the harbingers for some reason.

And what would be classified as a mid-tier harbinger? DPS over 250 or something? Or is it the crit closer to 10?

You want a high crit chance and a decent physical dps. Thickets have low crit chance, so even if they have high dps, they won't scale as much as a harbinger does with crits.

They are cheaper because most people play crit builds, so there's low demand.

Yeah 250 pdps would be decent, but you also want crit chance, I would say at least 8.