1.2 - Budget Life Physical Wander

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Ezizual wrote:

Hi, thanks for making this post as it's inspired me to try out something very similar to this, and so far it's been extremely fun.

I would like to ask though, could you perhaps add a section to your guide as to which stats to keep an eye out for in terms of gear?

Perhaps something simple such as a priority list rating which stats are most preferable would be a nice addition to this guide.

Thanks,

~Fluffykins

The problem with this is what you want to look out for changes person to person. You want crit gear with life + resists. Attack speed and weapon ele and flat physical are a bonus. Which you prioritize is up to you and what your character needs most.

I updated my Gear section to have more detail.

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Dmillz wrote:

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yongsheng11 wrote:

There you go, i updated it.

I am extremely sorry for posting my build on your thread though. Because before you edited it, if im not wrong i saw Theorycrafting. So i thought i'd let you guys in on my build.


Thanks for being cool about it though.

I saw your passive tree, I actually do not think its worth getting heart of the oak or going down that way.

Nope I just updated the main thread this morning because I finally switched to Wander last night. Aways appreciate more input!

Did a bunch of reading about Ondars, seems lots of people think it isn't that good. I'm looking into alternatives.

You should respec the 3 physical nodes after the start of shadow for the attack speed ones, 5% attack speed is way better than 10% phys damage. Also I really disagree that WED is better than PPAD this patch. Since all of the elemental damage you do is scaled off of your physical, increasing physical will give you both more physical and more elemental damage.

I just tested it, WED gives more dps. both level 1 gems. However, its a trade off, 120% for PPAD and 170% for WED. I would still go WED because with PPAD you cant 'take off' phy damage during phy reflect, but for ele reflect you can just turn off auras. But in terms of pure dps, youre wrong with PPAD doing more damage.

I do not think the attack speed is better in my case because i already attack too fast. It'd be huge mana issues if i got those 3. Also i havent tested it but i dont think attack speed gives you THAT much more dps that it outweights the mana cost. Please let me know if you've tested and how much dps difference it makes.

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yongsheng11 wrote:

I just tested it, WED gives more dps. both level 1 gems. However, its a trade off, 120% for PPAD and 170% for WED. I would still go WED because with PPAD you cant 'take off' phy damage during phy reflect, but for ele reflect you can just turn off auras. But in terms of pure dps, youre wrong with PPAD doing more damage.

I do not think the attack speed is better in my case because i already attack too fast. It'd be huge mana issues if i got those 3. Also i havent tested it but i dont think attack speed gives you THAT much more dps that it outweights the mana cost. Please let me know if you've tested and how much dps difference it makes.

Wow that is actually very surprising that WED is better, I figured since the elemental is all scaled off our physical as a % PPAD would be much better. Is it close though? Remember physical damage isn't mitigated as much as Elemental.

WED is probably best simply to mitigate physical reflect (if you can sustain the mana). We one shot the entire screen anyways so it's not like a bit more DPS either way makes a difference. I'll definitely have to play with this in the next few days as I get in to maps.

I specced out of the physical nodes and into the attack speed when I switched to wands and it provided almost twice as much benefit. However mana costs are always an issue, if you can sustain it the attack speed is definitely more DPS.

Updated OP to prioritize WED. If you can sustain the additional mana cost the reflect mitigation alone makes it the obvious choice. Keep the feedback coming! I feel like we are really locking down a crazy strong build for almost no cost.

Edit: I checked PPAD vs WED and so far PPAD is a bit more damage for me. However (barring mana cost) I think WED is a better gem for reflect as I mentioned above.

this any good?

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yangcliu2 wrote:

this any good?

Yes. Its 174 pDPS + good crit. Just 10 DPS less than the wand I'm using and when I crit I one shot the entire screen (61% chance to crit).

Did you check WED with all your auras on? I'm running haste, hatred, HoA for damage auras.

I'll go ahead and test the attack speed now.


Edit: just tested attack speed. It is roughly 50 dps more. However its a massive burden on your mana. I wouldn't suggest it as a wander if you want to run haste (which you should).

And if youre curious about haste. In my opinion, its one of the best auras for wander because it allows you to have faster clear speed which is what wander is all about.

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yongsheng11 wrote:

Did you check WED with all your auras on? I'm running haste, hatred, HoA for damage auras.

I'll go ahead and test the attack speed now.

Yes with Hatred + HoA, no Haste though. Also with and without all my power charges. It wasn't a big difference, maybe 150-200 tooltip. I still think WED is a better choice if you can sustain the extra mana mult though!

Fair enough.

@Dmillz: What do u think about iron reflex? Is it worth to take if ondar is not good enough?

Tried and tested iron reflex. Waste of points dont take it.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1037723

I wrote a more thorough reasoning why not to get it in my guide.