[2.2 updated, sub 5 min lab run video] low life kinetic blast by ddddddddddddddddddddime

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Rupenus wrote:

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Chundadragon wrote:

Well to be fair Trio was never great in party, uncontrollable with many people.

After i survived in 6 man party at lvl 88 with my ll wander scion, i realized that i really have the build i want to have since the beginning. Im lvl 95 probably i can handle them much more easily.

lvl 79 trio in 6 man party is the best way to test a build imho. This is my measurement.

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stzbttln wrote:

Even in the case of someone fully mirrored, the optimal setup still includes a gloom call to be resist capped and using +1 rainbowstrides. If using mirrored boots instead, you lose 2 levels on 2 auras which is a significant dps and ES loss, along with more mana reserved in 2.0 (enlighten going from lvl 4 to 5 in +1 boots will help with reservation)

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Lawyne wrote:

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stzbttln wrote:

Even in the case of someone fully mirrored, the optimal setup still includes a gloom call to be resist capped and using +1 rainbowstrides. If using mirrored boots instead, you lose 2 levels on 2 auras which is a significant dps and ES loss, along with more mana reserved in 2.0 (enlighten going from lvl 4 to 5 in +1 boots will help with reservation)

mirroring boots is not an ES loss, it is a big ES win and u gain +10% movementspeed (especially without AA u'd really love more MS), for sure a thing to think about. I was running that way right before I had quit PoE... and believe me, u want it, too.
also capping resists should be easier, and since u run BM u dont need the mana on rainbows and also u dont need lvl 5 enlighten certainly.
well u would loose about 3-5k DPS, maybe 7k. that's nothing ;)



PS: with highend gear/DPS I'd try to fit in Haste while still burning and freezing everything (drop Anger for example), movementspeed = clearspeed


greets from beyond :)

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h4llowerner wrote:

Inner Force is gone steez, also :

http://cb.poedb.tw/us/gem.php?n=Blood+Rage

Blood Rage now is physical degen and drains ES + life so there is no point in going ll anymore + nerf to ambusher (if u do ll st) --> We lose ~60% aps

Am I missing something or "confirmed dead" ?

GGG must really hate ll, i dont get it... :( .

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stzbttln wrote:

The ES loss I was talking about was from going from level 26 discipline to a level 24 with mirrored boots. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm fairly certain that with all the aura nodes and inner force nodes increasing aura effects, going from lvl 24 discipline is a bigger hit to ES than the Es you gain from mirrored boots, not including the dps loss from running a 24 aura instead of a 26. Mirrored boots also cost a lot more. About the mana, I was aobviously talking about mana wanders too.

The level 5 enlighten is not required but it's a nice boost to the life pool we have to spend for attacking.

I tried haste for a while but I felt that since the way this build works is generally cast once in a pack and it dies, I wanted to concentrate more on the 1 shotting capabilities instead of shooting multiple times. Most of the time someone in a 6 man party is running haste anyway so it isn't so bad. Maybe next patch we can run more auras and I'll try to fit it back in, but I doubt it since I don't pick up all aura nodes anymore.

Thanks for your input by the way. I'd be interested in testing if rainbowstrides + 26 disc gives more ES than mirrored boots + 24 disc. If anyone has a pair, maybe try it out and report back.

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h4llowerner wrote:

Inner Force is gone steez, also :

http://cb.poedb.tw/us/gem.php?n=Blood+Rage

Blood Rage now is physical degen and drains ES + life so there is no point in going ll anymore + nerf to ambusher (if u do ll st) --> We lose ~60% aps

Am I missing something or "confirmed dead" ?

GGG must really hate ll, i dont get it... :( .

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Lawyne wrote:

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stzbttln wrote:

The ES loss I was talking about was from going from level 26 discipline to a level 24 with mirrored boots. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm fairly certain that with all the aura nodes and inner force nodes increasing aura effects, going from lvl 24 discipline is a bigger hit to ES than the Es you gain from mirrored boots, not including the dps loss from running a 24 aura instead of a 26. Mirrored boots also cost a lot more. About the mana, I was aobviously talking about mana wanders too.

The level 5 enlighten is not required but it's a nice boost to the life pool we have to spend for attacking.

I tried haste for a while but I felt that since the way this build works is generally cast once in a pack and it dies, I wanted to concentrate more on the 1 shotting capabilities instead of shooting multiple times. Most of the time someone in a 6 man party is running haste anyway so it isn't so bad. Maybe next patch we can run more auras and I'll try to fit it back in, but I doubt it since I don't pick up all aura nodes anymore.

Thanks for your input by the way. I'd be interested in testing if rainbowstrides + 26 disc gives more ES than mirrored boots + 24 disc. If anyone has a pair, maybe try it out and report back.

I already tested that scenario ;) u gain about 400 ES with Sorcerer Boots 2Res + 50 Int and Movementspeed.

Dropping Anger means u dont oneshot things anymore? then keep it ofc, Haste would just be for the Movementspeed. Though I heard Bloodrage will lose its Lowlife Attack Speed Bonus, so maybe Haste will be interesting in 2.0 again.