2x 1 week races during the race season?

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race
non-hardcore

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SlixSC wrote:

I'm honestly thinking about just quitting this game for good now, I've seen it happen before developers making the game more and more casual, slowly undermining the competitive integrity of the game because they care more about making casuals happy than actually providing a platform for hardcore players to play competitively.

Racing is supposed to be challenging and punishing, it should take effort to improve and compete with the best, by introducing non-hardcore races you are not only removing all incentive to improve and play well, but you also make it less about skill and more about hours played (in 1 week races).

I'm not a fan of 1 week races to begin with, I think it's an easy way for people who can't normally compete in short-term races due to a lack of skill, to win demis by no-lifing the shit out of the game for a week. That's not competitive, that's just sad.

I have no problem with post-season 1 week races with different reward structures, but honestly 1 week races during the season are just annoying. Races should be about how fast you are and not how much time you have. It really goes against the competitive natur of racing on a conceptual level, especially if the race is softcore.

I've seen this happen before, developers thinking that casualising the game will make it more succesful. But guess what happened to games such as Halo or SC, developers made these games casual as fuck and both games are dying (or in the case of Halo already dead).

It's so sad, because I know that the first non-hardcore race will be a huge success, the second will be fairly succesful aswell, maybe even the third one, but eventually casuals will lose interest in racing and move on and that's when you ask yourself: "where did all the competitive racers go?" the answer is: "they moved on aswell, because you've ruined the competitive integrity of racing."

I always see these casuals ask for more one week races and non-hardcore races, but honestly fuck them, casuals are the number one cause of death for any game. What killed Halo (which was the most succesful console shooter up until a few years ago) was Bungie giving in to casual demands and making the game too easy and forgiving, which made people have no appreciation for the game anymore because it simply took no skill to win. And GGG are about to make the same mistake with PoE, make competitive racing more casual and the only thing you effectively accomplish is you piss of the competitive racers in the long-term and maybe, just maybe satisfy some of the casual crybabies in the short term.

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I_I_I wrote:

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SlixSC wrote:

I'm honestly thinking about just quitting this game for good now, I've seen it happen before developers making the game more and more casual, slowly undermining the competitive integrity of the game because they care more about making casuals happy than actually providing a platform for hardcore players to play competitively.

Racing is supposed to be challenging and punishing, it should take effort to improve and compete with the best, by introducing non-hardcore races you are not only removing all incentive to improve and play well, but you also make it less about skill and more about hours played (in 1 week races).

I'm not a fan of 1 week races to begin with, I think it's an easy way for people who can't normally compete in short-term races due to a lack of skill, to win demis by no-lifing the shit out of the game for a week. That's not competitive, that's just sad.

I have no problem with post-season 1 week races with different reward structures, but honestly 1 week races during the season are just annoying. Races should be about how fast you are and not how much time you have. It really goes against the competitive natur of racing on a conceptual level, especially if the race is softcore.

I've seen this happen before, developers thinking that casualising the game will make it more succesful. But guess what happened to games such as Halo or SC, developers made these games casual as fuck and both games are dying (or in the case of Halo already dead).

It's so sad, because I know that the first non-hardcore race will be a huge success, the second will be fairly succesful aswell, maybe even the third one, but eventually casuals will lose interest in racing and move on and that's when you ask yourself: "where did all the competitive racers go?" the answer is: "they moved on aswell, because you've ruined the competitive integrity of racing."

I always see these casuals ask for more one week races and non-hardcore races, but honestly fuck them, casuals are the number one cause of death for any game. What killed Halo (which was the most succesful console shooter up until a few years ago) was Bungie giving in to casual demands and making the game too easy and forgiving, which made people have no appreciation for the game anymore because it simply took no skill to win. And GGG are about to make the same mistake with PoE, make competitive racing more casual and the only thing you effectively accomplish is you piss of the competitive racers in the long-term and maybe, just maybe satisfy some of the casual crybabies in the short term.

That seems like a bit of an overreaction. One race like this hardly makes the game too casual.

I for one am interested in seeing how far people can push clear speed while still being safe enough to not lose xp all over the place. It might make for a new variety of builds.

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And still not one long term solo event.

Not impressed at all.

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SlixSC wrote:

I'm honestly thinking about just quitting this game for good now, I've seen it happen before developers making the game more and more casual, slowly undermining the competitive integrity of the game because they care more about making casuals happy than actually providing a platform for hardcore players to play competitively.

Racing is supposed to be challenging and punishing, it should take effort to improve and compete with the best, by introducing non-hardcore races you are not only removing all incentive to improve and play well, but you also make it less about skill and more about hours played (in 1 week races).

I'm not a fan of 1 week races to begin with, I think it's an easy way for people who can't normally compete in short-term races due to a lack of skill, to win demis by no-lifing the shit out of the game for a week. That's not competitive, that's just sad.

I have no problem with post-season 1 week races with different reward structures, but honestly 1 week races during the season are just annoying. Races should be about how fast you are and not how much time you have. It really goes against the competitive natur of racing on a conceptual level, especially if the race is softcore.

I've seen this happen before, developers thinking that casualising the game will make it more succesful. But guess what happened to games such as Halo or SC, developers made these games casual as fuck and both games are dying (or in the case of Halo already dead).

It's so sad, because I know that the first non-hardcore race will be a huge success, the second will be fairly succesful aswell, maybe even the third one, but eventually casuals will lose interest in racing and move on and that's when you ask yourself: "where did all the competitive racers go?" the answer is: "they moved on aswell, because you've ruined the competitive integrity of racing."

I always see these casuals ask for more one week races and non-hardcore races, but honestly fuck them, casuals are the number one cause of death for any game. What killed Halo (which was the most succesful console shooter up until a few years ago) was Bungie giving in to casual demands and making the game too easy and forgiving, which made people have no appreciation for the game anymore because it simply took no skill to win. And GGG are about to make the same mistake with PoE, make competitive racing more casual and the only thing you effectively accomplish is you piss of the competitive racers in the long-term and maybe, just maybe satisfy some of the casual crybabies in the short term.

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boof wrote:

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SlixSC wrote:

I'm honestly thinking about just quitting this game for good now, I've seen it happen before developers making the game more and more casual, slowly undermining the competitive integrity of the game because they care more about making casuals happy than actually providing a platform for hardcore players to play competitively.

Racing is supposed to be challenging and punishing, it should take effort to improve and compete with the best, by introducing non-hardcore races you are not only removing all incentive to improve and play well, but you also make it less about skill and more about hours played (in 1 week races).

I'm not a fan of 1 week races to begin with, I think it's an easy way for people who can't normally compete in short-term races due to a lack of skill, to win demis by no-lifing the shit out of the game for a week. That's not competitive, that's just sad.

I have no problem with post-season 1 week races with different reward structures, but honestly 1 week races during the season are just annoying. Races should be about how fast you are and not how much time you have. It really goes against the competitive natur of racing on a conceptual level, especially if the race is softcore.

I've seen this happen before, developers thinking that casualising the game will make it more succesful. But guess what happened to games such as Halo or SC, developers made these games casual as fuck and both games are dying (or in the case of Halo already dead).

It's so sad, because I know that the first non-hardcore race will be a huge success, the second will be fairly succesful aswell, maybe even the third one, but eventually casuals will lose interest in racing and move on and that's when you ask yourself: "where did all the competitive racers go?" the answer is: "they moved on aswell, because you've ruined the competitive integrity of racing."

I always see these casuals ask for more one week races and non-hardcore races, but honestly fuck them, casuals are the number one cause of death for any game. What killed Halo (which was the most succesful console shooter up until a few years ago) was Bungie giving in to casual demands and making the game too easy and forgiving, which made people have no appreciation for the game anymore because it simply took no skill to win. And GGG are about to make the same mistake with PoE, make competitive racing more casual and the only thing you effectively accomplish is you piss of the competitive racers in the long-term and maybe, just maybe satisfy some of the casual crybabies in the short term.

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SlixSC wrote:

.. but honestly 1 week races during the season are just annoying. Races should be about how fast you are and not how much time you have. It really goes against the competitive natur of racing on a conceptual level, especially if the race is softcore.