Do Acrobatics and Iron Reflexes Play Nice Together?

I'm making a character that uses all evasion gear and uses iron reflexes to turn that into armor. If I put a point into Acrobatics, does the 50% less armor debuff affect the armor I gain from the evasion > armor conversion, essentially halving the effects from iron reflexes? Or does it cut 50% of my armor BEFORE the conversion?

How do these two keystones cooperate now?
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No, they do not cooperate.
You can't "out-combine" drawbacks. So, yes, it cuts your armor by 50% after the conversion.
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Caliginosus wrote:
You can't "out-combine" drawbacks. So, yes, it cuts your armor by 50% after the conversion.

Yes you can. CI + Ghost Reaver + Vaal Pact anyone?
Also see Unwavering Stance + Tempest Shield.
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Last edited by dudiobugtron#4663 on Nov 7, 2013, 3:04:50 PM
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dudiobugtron wrote:
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Caliginosus wrote:
You can't "out-combine" drawbacks. So, yes, it cuts your armor by 50% after the conversion.

Yes you can. CI + Ghost Reaver + Vaal Pact anyone?
Also see Unwavering Stance + Tempest Shield.

Drawback of CI: 1 life
Drawback of Ghost Reaver: Can't leech to your health pool
Drawback of Vaal Pact: Can't regain health via regeneration / flasks.

I suppose you're 'out-combining' CI's possible drawback of not being able to naturally recover ES mid-combat?
Determination can get rid of the 50% less by adding 50+% more. So in essence you could run an aura to remove the downside of Acrobatics and using armor.
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Softspoken wrote:
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dudiobugtron wrote:
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Caliginosus wrote:
You can't "out-combine" drawbacks. So, yes, it cuts your armor by 50% after the conversion.

Yes you can. CI + Ghost Reaver + Vaal Pact anyone?
Also see Unwavering Stance + Tempest Shield.

Drawback of CI: 1 life
Drawback of Ghost Reaver: Can't leech to your health pool
Drawback of Vaal Pact: Can't regain health via regeneration / flasks.

I suppose you're 'out-combining' CI's possible drawback of not being able to naturally recover ES mid-combat?


No you're "out-combining" the draw backs of vaal pact because you already can't use flasks. so you lose nothing.

Also unwavering stance + iron reflex (iron reflex removes draw-back of unwavering stance and vice versa, because you can't evade anyways, other than the base 5%)
Last edited by Ardziv#1837 on Nov 8, 2013, 1:13:15 AM
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Ardziv wrote:


No you're "out-combining" the draw backs of vaal pact because you already can't use flasks. so you lose nothing.

Also unwavering stance + iron reflex (iron reflex removes draw-back of unwavering stance and vice versa, because you can't evade anyways, other than the base 5%)
And that's still left with the drawback of stacking pure Ar with IR being net loss in potential defenses against all but the largest hits.
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DarkHeart69 wrote:
Determination can get rid of the 50% less by adding 50+% more. So in essence you could run an aura to remove the downside of Acrobatics and using armor.

That would leave you with 75% Armour, not 100%. They're multiplicative, so it's 100/2*2 = 75. Still a good ol' bonus though.
You're both misreading and misrepresenting as what you misread at the same time. Theoretically they would cancel out if it was twice as efficient, but practically it just is not.

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