any use for heatshiver and nycta' lantern?

Ive got these two



and im trying deperately to find a build/skill combo that benefits from their stats (mid-end game ofc, builds that are viable up to lvl 40 are nice and all but..)


heatshiver is a bit easier - this is crappy unique with one of the strongest drawbacks and so-so bonus. i managed to find almost perfect drawback roll (21 out of 40 -res) - wasnt that hard, i vendored severa of these. also fusing went quite well so i hope to use it for a moment at least


there are not that many gems that really benefit from levels - mostly spells and some auras. other gems have measly ~4% increase that is not worth a hassle of higher mana cost

Discharge - searing touch. nuff said

Explosive Arrow - sadly Empower does not benefit from Heatshiver so Geofreys crest is a better choice here

Elemental Hit - this might be it. +2 lvls +2 from empower. sadly support gems dont really care about +1 or +2



Lantren..

it seems that the only use is with Glacial Hammer. but even then these gems are lousy choice for melee - even with a 6Link. aaaand 30-60dmg is pathetic even for L41

I thought about minions (ignoring completely that there are much better summoner items) - with hatred aura (so that cold-fire has something to covert) and general fire-oriented zombies but using this with Mon'something's Grasp means no shield == no Aegis..


anyone?

here I come:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/530287
basically showing there that best would be hatred + bear trap + empower + chance to ignite


or these combos:

hatred + ethereal knives + 2 other which you can chose

hatred + detonate dead + spell totem + 1 other which you can chose

used the lantern for around 15 lvls in my ek ranger
ek + faster attacks + faster casting works very well with the stats from it

i would like to try nyctas EK with kaoms heart. would be one tanky son of a bitch

tried zombies with Lantren

will try bear traps with my new character (if i decide to play poe - my borrowed tv will be with me in 2 days so hello gta5 again)

anyway:


dmg is SLIGHTLY better than with +2 minions helm but survivability is not. necromantic aegis is MANDATORY for summoner. anyone playing without it is missing A LOT

verdict: for summoner - meh

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sidtherat wrote:

necromantic aegis is MANDATORY for summoner. anyone playing without it is missing A LOT

verdict: for summoner - meh

NA =/= mandantory for summoner. If you use skelly bombs you don't want them surviving long.

atleast nyctas is a very stylish choice of weapon

cold snap in all of the items!

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Warhaul wrote:

cold snap in all of the items!

sadly it is hard to dispute Shiver' supremacy..

as for the NA and summoner. i secificaly have said 'summoner'. playing skele-totem-MI can be done by any build and is not summoner play in my book

my zombies can survive 70+ map without any of them dying. this is important due to fact that build-in infernal blow leaves no corpses and re-summoning zombies can be a problem

btw no skele-bomb build will be faster than 4 rampaging giga-zombies 1-2shotting any white monster in maps. and i need them alive so NA is mandatory in my book. just like 'end charge on melee stun' on zombies is mandatory (for me)

I found my first lantern last night, i too was wondering if there was a build I could make around it