No longer feeling like my time is respected

I made it to early end game (T6) & it's been turning into a bigger and bigger slog the higher I go. I was excited about working on other characters after I maxxed my first (even getting a few up through the first 3 acts), but now I'm hitting all of the problems that people were complaining about months ago & my desire to even finish my first character is on life support.

Losing XP is unacceptable game design when there are so many one hit and fraction-of-a-second deaths. You don't learn anything from that except to stick with like one ranged attack and to abandon the diverse attack loop that existed during campaign.

On death effects nuking full shields/health (with max resistance) is also terrible design. Visibility is improved but still not great... but to it's core, I feel this is one of those things where the devs might have some ego about not giving up on their design. I feel like it just needs to be abandoned.

Loot drop rates feel pretty good, but the items aren't useful for a vast majority of the time. I've now gone weeks without being able to find items that that upgrade my damage/defense. I don't want to engage with trade - furthermore why would I, when there's a risk that someone can end up hacking and clearing out my inventory? Buying items via trade from other players is a work around for unrewarding gameplay loop - it's not a fix for it.

I bought the $100 pack on launch, then after a few weeks bought the upgrade for the next one up - to show suppport for the devs. I was planning during the course of EA to upgrade up all the way up to the $480 tier pack but that is now off the table at this time.

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

I was excited about working on other characters after I maxxed my first...

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

...finish my first character is on life support.

If your idea of either of these is hitting level 100, I have bad news for you.
If that's not it, curious what your idea of "maxxing" or "finishing" a character is.

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

Losing XP is unacceptable game design when there are so many one hit and fraction-of-a-second deaths. You don't learn anything from that except to stick with like one ranged attack and to abandon the diverse attack loop that existed during campaign.

On death effects nuking full shields/health (with max resistance) is also terrible design. Visibility is improved but still not great... but to it's core, I feel this is one of those things where the devs might have some ego about not giving up on their design. I feel like it just needs to be abandoned.

Loot drop rates feel pretty good, but the items aren't useful for a vast majority of the time. I've now gone weeks without being able to find items that that upgrade my damage/defense.

This is where people would say "git gud". I'll say...engage with the content better?

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

I don't want to engage with trade - furthermore why would I, when there's a risk that someone can send up hacking and clearing out my inventory?

Well, game's based around trade. So there's that. Also, tinfoil hatting only really works when they haven't already explained how people's accounts were compromised (hint: it wasn't from trading).

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

I bought the $100 pack on launch, then after a few weeks bought the upgrade for the next one up - to show suppport for the devs. I was planning during the cost of EA to upgrade up all the way up to the $480 tier pack but that is now off the table at this time.

Don't be the "my future money is at stake here" guy. It adds nothing to any argument except the knowledge that you're not interested in having any kind of reasonable discussion.

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Well, game's based around trade.

SSF left the chat.

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LeadRaven#6291 wrote:

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Well, game's based around trade.

SSF left the chat.

Sorry, game's BALANCED around trade. Go look at any of GGG's big walls of text about it.

SSF and Hardcore exist as challenge modes, they've said it over and over, and being snarky doesn't change facts.

No longer feeling like my time is respected- just wait until you farm for a new item to watch the price 3x over night due to the massive bot farmers that GGG will not punish at all. but wait get better they will edit your post when u give them the info on them showing the screen shoots, discord and websites so they can do 10 hours of work and removed a large amounts of the bot farmers. but wait they cant do that because that would be to easy.

Instead of crying, have you tried asking for advice?
Like "why i'm dying, how to improve my build", or anything like that? People gladly will help, but this crying is just cringe.

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

If your idea of either of these is hitting level 100, I have bad news for you.
If that's not it, curious what your idea of "maxxing" or "finishing" a character is.

I'm talking about level 100 or T15 maps, all ascendency points. Basically the time when the only thing for me to do it farm for better gear.

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

This is where people would say "git gud". I'll say...engage with the content better?

What does that even mean? Not helpful; disregarded.

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Well, game's based around trade. So there's that. Also, tinfoil hatting only really works when they haven't already explained how people's accounts were compromised (hint: it wasn't from trading).

The only common thread I saw in all of the reports was that it was players who engaged in trading. After GGG said that they secured their admin accounts, I continued to see reports of stolen inventory. So you can call it tinfoil hat or whatever you want to try to discredit how I feel - it does nothing for me. I will not engage with trading.

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Redthorne82#3177 wrote:

Don't be the "my future money is at stake here" guy. It adds nothing to any argument except the knowledge that you're not interested in having any kind of reasonable discussion.

It serves the purpose of feedback that I supported the game after my initial early access purchase but that the end game (in it's current state & because of my listed reasons) caused me to change my mind. It's valuable in that - for every comment like mine that speaks the truth about how they feel, there are 10 other people who feel the same but just move on to other games without saying anything.

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PaintMaster#2396 wrote:

Instead of crying, have you tried asking for advice?
Like "why i'm dying, how to improve my build", or anything like that? People gladly will help, but this crying is just cringe.

Sorry I thought the "early access feedback" section of the forums was for giving feedback, not for asking for help.

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SpankyKong#9805 wrote:

I'm talking about level 100 or T15 maps, all ascendency points. Basically the time when the only thing for me to do it farm for better gear.

Let's be realistic: level 90, t15 maps.
Actually, a good goal would be all end game mechanics atlas points.

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LeadRaven#6291 wrote:

Let's be realistic: level 90, t15 maps.
Actually, a good goal would be all end game mechanics atlas points.

Either definition for maxxed - my feelings are the same.