the market is too dominated by people that...

Hello.
I find the market is too dominated by people who either RMT, use bots, focus on profit generating trading techniques, scam newbies or use stuff like 600% rarity setup while being carried by the group. These people get rich by not playing normally and I believe it impacts others negatively: e.g. if players buy divines for money I believes that leads to increased prices for others and inflation. If you manipulate the market, you just make things more expensive for others while not contributing anything (like selling items you find) yourself.

I think the market access should be equalized in a sense that playing normally (= farming monsters for loot in different content and selling that) is the way to go to earn currency.

For different issues that would require different solutions: banning bots and RMTers effectively, limiting the effect of excessive rarity on loot while being within a group, items like stellar amulett being added to currency exchance (or better just add an auction house), a limit on how often you can buy/sell the same item type (so you can't just buy them all to manipulate the market), etc.

Yes, so trading will soon become useless for non-RMT players, because AI scripts will quickly produce inflation.

Then the game will only be an offline mode game for non-RMT players.

But soon someone will tell you that inflation is just your fantasy.Studios using AI scripts have no impact on the game's economic system.

In the end, you will find that non-RMT players are the disadvantaged group in this game, and they are a minority in this game. Some people will tell you that POE1 is like this, don't make a fuss, AI scripts are banned repeatedly, and it is no secret that studios benefit from it. As long as it does not affect the security of other people's accounts, they are free to do what they want.

In the end, we can't hold on and can't catch up with the inflation caused by AI scripts. Maybe the only free choice left for us non-RMT players is AFK.

Even if ppl do rmt doesn't really affect market, all those divs or whatever currency they bought was dropped in thr game. If they magically created currency and injected the it would have a big impact.

I havent not rmt and my main is 700+ div at 98 and my alt is 300 to 400 div at lvl 97.

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ki784340143#8116 wrote:

Yes, so trading will soon become useless for non-RMT players, because AI scripts will quickly produce inflation.

Then the game will only be an offline mode game for non-RMT players.

But soon someone will tell you that inflation is just your fantasy.Studios using AI scripts have no impact on the game's economic system.

In the end, you will find that non-RMT players are the disadvantaged group in this game, and they are a minority in this game. Some people will tell you that POE1 is like this, don't make a fuss, AI scripts are banned repeatedly, and it is no secret that studios benefit from it. As long as it does not affect the security of other people's accounts, they are free to do what they want.

In the end, we can't hold on and can't catch up with the inflation caused by AI scripts. Maybe the only free choice left for us non-RMT players is AFK.

PoE is like the movie war games, the only way to win is to not play at all.

Yes economy is terrible they should try to achieve the buying power that players in D2 had. Much better there.

There's no way to balance these types of games when traded is included. There should be a SSF league which doesn't reset every season ( but still gets the updated content.)

But as for standard it's good for a month. But after that the economy will always be shot. Hyper inflation is just a natural process when you have groups of players pooling resources together and playing 24/7. botting. Flipping items and buying out sought after items and relisting them at higher prices etc.

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Knuk#4425 wrote:

Even if ppl do rmt doesn't really affect market, all those divs or whatever currency they bought was dropped in thr game. If they magically created currency and injected the it would have a big impact.

This is absolutely incorrect, it's true that the currency was created in game but to say the RMT doesn't have direct and measurable impacts in the market is non-sense

RMT means bot farming accounts which generates more currency that in turn devaluates the currency

Someone using RMT can casdually drop 100 divs on an item because that's 5$, if you're not doing RMT that's hours and hours of grinding.

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Knuk#4425 wrote:

I havent not rmt and my main is 700+ div at 98 and my alt is 300 to 400 div at lvl 97.

Obviously you have 700+ div mr double negative, that's what? 40$?

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ryo3000#2773 wrote:

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Knuk#4425 wrote:

Even if ppl do rmt doesn't really affect market, all those divs or whatever currency they bought was dropped in thr game. If they magically created currency and injected the it would have a big impact.

This is absolutely incorrect, it's true that the currency was created in game but to say the RMT doesn't have direct and measurable impacts in the market is non-sense

RMT means bot farming accounts which generates more currency that in turn devaluates the currency

Someone using RMT can casdually drop 100 divs on an item because that's 5$, if you're not doing RMT that's hours and hours of grinding.

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Knuk#4425 wrote:

I havent not rmt and my main is 700+ div at 98 and my alt is 300 to 400 div at lvl 97.

They will say that because currency itself is consumable, it will be consumed by use, as if these 24-hour AI script programs will stop working when people use these props and wait for them to use up and then continue to obtain currency.

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ryo3000#2773 wrote:

Someone using RMT can casdually drop 100 divs on an item because that's 5$, if you're not doing RMT that's hours and hours of grinding.

but if hes buying your item then it doesnt matter if everyones legit and hes giving you 50 div or if the bots have inflated and hes giving you 100 div.

you are still in the market, you sell at the inflated prices so your wealth is inflated and you can buy at the inflated prices.

once you are a trader the vast majority of your currency comes from trading, not from directly dropping that specific currency. so you become outside of the concerns and your wealth is just reflective of the wealth in the market.

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ryo3000#2773 wrote:

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Knuk#4425 wrote:

I havent not rmt and my main is 700+ div at 98 and my alt is 300 to 400 div at lvl 97.

Obviously you have 700+ div mr double negative, that's what? 40$?

we wouldnt know because we dont rmt.

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Snorkle_uk#0761 wrote:

we wouldnt know because we dont rmt.

dunno about you but with the amount of DMs i am getting from those ***** i do know the pricing pretty well without ever being interested in engaging. on side note lately the DMs started also including "do you want to sell your currency? join some fucked up discord.". sigh.