Plus/ +7 Weapons/ Staffs etc & Mana Modifiers
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Just sharing my personal experience and I'm not sure if other people are having the same issues or not.
I am a level 88 Chronomancer Ice Sorceress currently wielding a staff with +7 to cold skills I have taken mind over matter which reduces mana recovery by 50% but then took another point in the tree which improves it by 15% so right now I have 35% reduced mana recover from baseline The majority of my cold skills with the staff are sitting around level 26 currently To make up for this i have dedicated more than half of my passive level up points into mana/int. I have a total mana pool of 2.1K with a mana regeneration of 255 mana per second with 47% mana recoupe (I have taken the majority of mana regeneration nodes and mana recoupe nodes around the passive tree). On top of this every socket in my armour has an inspiration rune adding 15% increased mana regen per rune. (current total 5 inspiration runes) Despite heavy investment into mana regeneration, mana recoupe and intelligence for flat added mana I am absolutely struggling to cast my skills in a way that doesn't make my character feel like a bag of bricks. I have no 6 link skills. I have a single 5 socket and the rest are 4 or less. Despite not even being at max socket capacity my 5 socket skill (eye of winter) is costing me 512 mana (1/4 of my mana) PER CAST!! Comet is 457 and Frost Bomb is 313 per cast. I run out of mana in basically 4-5 casts of a skill and my 255 mana per second with mana recoupe is struggling to keep up even when I don't take any damage (as mind over matter would remove mana from damage). It takes so freaking long for mana to return despite the heavy level investment into mana and it's making me think the mana multiplier is a bit excessive. This is just my current experience with it and I am still trying to make it work but it's feeling a bit hopeless at the moment. Last bumped on Jan 27, 2025, 10:48:35 AM
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this is intentional and i agree with it as it is a soft cap on player power. the +# to skills will prob be adjusted before release but the balance on attributes/resource use should absolutely stay
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Mana on kill jewels for clearing.
Temporal Rift for single target, so you spend mana, press temporal rift, now mana full again, repeat. |
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" I guess you*re talking about Arcane Blossom regarding the 15% inc. recovery rate?Notice that this is an increased modifier, whereas MoM gives a less modifier, which is multiplicative with the 15% increased. So what you get in the end is: 1 * 0.5 * (1+0.15) = 0.575 So you only have 57.5% of baseline regen, not 65%. Essentially, you need to get way more % mana regen rate from the tree (and ideally on your gear as well) to make MoM viable. You should consider getting Arcane Surge from supports or the tree. There's also Inspiration Support, Mana Remnants and other tools to improve mana sustain. Personally I found recoup to be pretty bad but maybe it's better with Chronomancer if you have the node that makes it occur over 4s instead of 8s. But if you don't have that, you probably shouldn't go for recoup and invest in more regen nodes or Arcane Surge instead. But I agree that high mana cost creates lots of build pressure atm. Basically every caster is pushed to go archmage, since you have to stack tons of mana and mana regen anyway. CaptainLance9 has also pointed this out in one of his videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bVhNDCATlI&t=805s edit: scratch the "get more regen nodes" advice, since you already seem to have invested a lot. Arcane Surge and increased arcane surge effect are probably more impactful. It is a "more" multiplier so it counters the 50% from MoM directly. You should also try to get more flat mana and int from your gear. A +7 staff is nice, but if it doesn't also have at least 200 mana (combined from mana and int mods) it's hard to handle. Last edited by twostroketom#5281 on Jan 27, 2025, 9:30:31 AM
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" Man, delete this character. Do not try to fix it, delete it. Big mistakes you are doing: 1. Playing the support sorc ascendancy, instead of the dps one. 2. Stacking regen, instead of mana itself. It is not salvageable. Accept your mistake, delete, make new one, improve. (Or don't delete, this character is great for "curse-group-block-bot") |
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" Or that xD |
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" Do you know how recoup works?) Ok, more seriously. MoM halves mana recovery from all sources: regen, recoup, flask etc. It's a very heavy penalty. If you want to use mana pool for both offense and defense, you should find more sources of mana recovery. |
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IF you wanna use MoM comfortably, you need Eldritch Battery + Everlasting Gaze.
And try to instilling Conservative Casting on you Amulet. Focus on increase your mana pool. Get +5 Int nodes, passives that increase your damage from Int and Mana stacking like Insightfullness, Arcane Intensity and Calibration. |
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" While this what you suggest is technically correct, I am not sure that trying to run it on the wrong ascendancy will bear any fruits. |
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" I'm just trying to be helpful to OP. The game shouldn't be restrictive to play "only the right ascendency", he chose to play Chronomancer, so I'm giving him ways to try to make it work a little bit better. If at the end it didn't help him solve his issue, will be up to him start over a new char in the so "right ascendency". Please don't get me wrong, just trying to be helpful. |
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