Considered Casting no longer working on Elemental Expression after Patch

Despite not being mentioned in the patch notes, I can no longer use the support on the ability after patch whereas I was able to before. This completely killed any usability of the ascendancy skill and I don't know why it's not working when it wasn't listed as a change in this patch.
Last bumped on Jan 30, 2025, 10:36:08 AM
Same for me. I took it off and I could not re-socket it.

Also, Elemental storm's socketed gems are gone after I tried to reset the talent
Last edited by jibyun89#4135 on Jan 16, 2025, 9:37:05 PM
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POEJae#2832 wrote:
Despite not being mentioned in the patch notes, I can no longer use the support on the ability after patch whereas I was able to before. This completely killed any usability of the ascendancy skill and I don't know why it's not working when it wasn't listed as a change in this patch.

Big words for 40% more damage, don't you think?

Few changes may have slipped through the patch notes. It's a common practice with large updates.

Considered Casting requires a skill to be casted by you, while Elemental Expression is triggered. That's weird to post a bug report about a fixed bug, even if it's fixed silently.
Last edited by MonaHuna#6449 on Jan 17, 2025, 6:20:36 AM
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MonaHuna#6449 wrote:
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POEJae#2832 wrote:
Despite not being mentioned in the patch notes, I can no longer use the support on the ability after patch whereas I was able to before. This completely killed any usability of the ascendancy skill and I don't know why it's not working when it wasn't listed as a change in this patch.

Big words for 40% more damage, don't you think?

Few changes may have slipped through the patch notes. It's a common practice with large updates.

Considered Casting requires a skill to be casted by you, while Elemental Expression is triggered. That's weird to post a bug report about a fixed bug, even if it's fixed silently.


If we're talking from the POV of making a build with it at the center, then yeah it's an unbelievably big knockdown for an ability that was already really underperforming. I've already got the skill running at the maximum level 40 and it's still struggling to make rounds at t15s despite the investment. I don't know if you've played with the skill as a main DPS source but that support was a huge reason it had any chance to maintain viability at its current state.

I'm less peeved by the huge drop in damage and more so annoyed that it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes anywhere, so I hope you can understand a bit of the frustration with how the change was carried even if the support gem wasn't supposed to function as such.
To be fair, they did specifically mention a number of other skills that were not being tagged properly as triggered skills and the resulting bug that this allowed them to be used with supports that should not normally work with them.

They didn't specifically mention Elemental Expression, but it is clearly also a triggered skill fitting the same scenario. One could expect that any similar skills they might have missed in this patch will be fair game for the same fix.

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0.1.1 Patch Notes - Bug Fixes wrote:

Fixed a bug where Mana Flare, Elemental Discharge, and the version of Ember Fusillade triggered by Dusk Vigil were not considered triggered skills (and therefore could be supported by some supports they don't apply to triggered skills)
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Fixed a bug where "Elemental Storm" was missing the triggered tag.



It is annoying to build around something that is removed, but this seems to have clearly been unintended from the wording of the skill and the support gem.

Should it be intended that this triggered skill should be viable as a main dps, then it could be further balanced during this EA process.

Hopefully by the end we have varying playstyles for each class that are both fun to play and viable. The game has some development and evolution needed to get there.
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Pehr#3739 wrote:
To be fair, they did specifically mention a number of other skills that were not being tagged properly as triggered skills and the resulting bug that this allowed them to be used with supports that should not normally work with them.

They didn't specifically mention Elemental Expression, but it is clearly also a triggered skill fitting the same scenario. One could expect that any similar skills they might have missed in this patch will be fair game for the same fix.

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0.1.1 Patch Notes - Bug Fixes wrote:

Fixed a bug where Mana Flare, Elemental Discharge, and the version of Ember Fusillade triggered by Dusk Vigil were not considered triggered skills (and therefore could be supported by some supports they don't apply to triggered skills)
...
Fixed a bug where "Elemental Storm" was missing the triggered tag.



It is annoying to build around something that is removed, but this seems to have clearly been unintended from the wording of the skill and the support gem.

Should it be intended that this triggered skill should be viable as a main dps, then it could be further balanced during this EA process.

Hopefully by the end we have varying playstyles for each class that are both fun to play and viable. The game has some development and evolution needed to get there.


For sure, it sucks for this current cycle as someone who really tried to make this skill work. I started this character with the sole thought to make elemental expression work as an ability and though it sucks to have to REALLY turn up short, I'm still trying to look at the bright side that in the case that this skill really gets the much needed buff treatment that I'll have a heads up in making it work once it does with the experimentation I've been doing til now. Still sucks but I bide for now.

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